Stiles and Rails

algale · Post by **algale** » Mon Jan 09, 2012 7:09 pm

dusty wrote:
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A Way To Cut a Group of Longer Pieces All the Same Length

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My Cross Cut Sled Extension Table

My curiosity is piqued. Not sure I understand the thin piece clamped to the sled which also appears clamped to something else in the distance. Also the out feed extension appears to have a support made from one of the extendable legs a la Nicky's table but I thought you had a cantilevered extension (at least for rip cuts). Please elaborate on the set up if you wouldn't mind sharing.
Thanks,
Al

dusty · Post by **dusty** » Mon Jan 09, 2012 7:25 pm

algale wrote:My curiosity is piqued. Not sure I understand the thin piece clamped to the sled which also appears clamped to something else in the distance. Also the out feed extension appears to have a support made from one of the extendable legs a la Nicky's table but I thought you had a cantilevered extension (at least for rip cuts). Please elaborate on the set up if you wouldn't mind sharing.
Thanks,
Al

This outfeed table can be used either way (cantilevered or with the support leg). When I am cutting long pieces (a lot of weigh after it leaves the main table) I used the support leg. It is also more time consuming to set up and tear down the cantilever configuration.

In the distance there is a block of wood (a stop) clamped to that long piece which is clamped to the sled. It is moved back and forth to create a stop so that I could cut multiple pieces that needed to be the same length without measuring and marking every one.

The need to do this on this project has triggered a future revision to my cross cut sled. This jury rig worked well but could be better.

algale · Post by **algale** » Mon Jan 09, 2012 7:32 pm

dusty wrote:
In the distance there is a block of wood (a stop) clamped to that long piece which is clamped to the sled. It is moved back and forth to create a stop so that I could cut multiple pieces that needed to be the same length without measuring and marking every one.

The need to do this on this project has triggered a future revision to my cross cut sled. This jury rig worked well but could be better.

Ok I get it. In the photo I thought the outrigger with the stop was clamped to something else and could not figure out how that worked. Incidentally I also Like the way you put a support between the table to raise the work piece to the height of the sled. Very slick.

Thanks for the explanation of both the sled and outfeed table. Both are on the agenda but I find I never build these types of digs until I am going to do a project that requires them.

Al

mbcabinetmaker · Post by **mbcabinetmaker** » Mon Jan 09, 2012 7:44 pm

dusty wrote:I don't believe she offered a reward for accepting the challenge. I think she just wants to keep me busy somewhere other than in the house.

When she realized that I had accepted her challenge (the day the first wood was cut), she issued the request for a new TV cabinet. The current one has served us well for many years but all of a sudden would be "nice" to replace it.

I will post pictures of the project (good or bad) though I seldom do that. Here are a couple in progress photos.

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These are "dry fit" only. It has been my experience that the real challenge is at glue up. Making wide board from small ones is also a challenge for me.

I would have to give those miters an A+ dusty!:)

dusty · Post by **dusty** » Mon Jan 09, 2012 7:51 pm

algale wrote:Ok I get it. In the photo I thought the outrigger with the stop was clamped to something else and could not figure out how that worked. Incidentally I also Like the way you put a support between the table to raise the work piece to the height of the sled. Very slick.

Thanks for the explanation of both the sled and outfeed table. Both are on the agenda but I find I never build these types of digs until I am going to do a project that requires them.

Al

The outfeed table has been a fun jig. The one you see in these photos is the third on I have built; each supposedly an improvement over the previous.

The runner that supports the material at sled height was a necessity. I had some 12" wide boards to cut and the unsupported weight was more than I could keep down on the table. Without that support there would have been an accident in the waiting.

dusty · Post by **dusty** » Mon Jan 09, 2012 7:52 pm

mbcabinetmaker wrote:I would have to give those miters an A+ dusty!:)

Thank you, Mark. I hope they look good after glue up.

greitz · Post by **greitz** » Mon Jan 09, 2012 7:56 pm

I like the way the wood grain wraps around the top and sides, Dusty. I assume the top and sides are joined by a miter joint? Are you going to reinforce the joint somehow?

Gary

dusty · Post by **dusty** » Thu Jan 12, 2012 8:21 am

The initial glue up on the skate case has started. I chose to glue on as the last step of the carcass assembly. Once that is done, I will need to construct and attach the face frame and finish the door.

I have made a potentially crucial error in that I have done construction without first selecting the hardware. Time will tell. I will attempt to minimize the impact by getting the hardware before I build the face frame.

dusty · Post by **dusty** » Thu Jan 12, 2012 8:39 am

I seem to be unable to start and finish a project without a significant SNAFU.

I have all of the wood cut and all of the edge gluing done for the TV Cabinet. I have been very pleased with the progress and the results. This morning I decided to get SWMBO involved before I started the routing and dry fit.

I wanted her involved so that she could select the pieces that would show most predominately after assembly. The top was most important.

Selecting grain pattern and color was a real chore (for us together). I had already picked the pieces that I thought would "go where" and which pieces would be inside/utside or top/bottom.

She immediately dismissed my selection because I had opposing cathedral patterns, conflicting color and a couple less than desirable edge glue joints.

Good news -- we finally selected the pieces and assigned them to their position in the finished assembly.

She suggested that for the next project I should lay out the raw materials and let her "pick and assign" before anything is cut. I may have created a monster.

I can see myself now cutting up a 1"x10"x96" board to get a 1"x6"x36" piece right out of the middle because of the size and shape of the cathedral pattern.

WE marked all of the pieces so when I start routing and rabbeting I will have to be very careful. I am committed to doing it her way and I must not screw up now.

Ed in Tampa · Post by **Ed in Tampa** » Thu Jan 12, 2012 12:26 pm

Dusty my friend you are being sucked into the mystic of feminine creativity.
You are right you will be cutting a 1x6x36 inch board from a 1x10x96 to get the perfect match. Been there done it. Wish I had the money I could have saved had I done it without input from the better half.

The problem now is she dreams up projects that I have no idea how to do. With molding I can't reproduce and wood I can't afford. Right now we have an unfinished fire place because she can't draw, explain, conceptualize the moulding she wants on it. But she will know it when she sees it. Go figure.
We also have a bathroom in need of moulding that will be put up as soon as we (she) decides on the the PERFECT color.

My problem is she has her own business of interior design, specializing in silk floral arrangements. So she knows what she wants. I have torn apart more silk flower stems to get (I just want that one flower there) piece she needs.

Got to admit her work looks fantastic but man oh man it can be frustrating getting there. I kind of chuckle when I watch HGTV and these home designer shows. They show the designer coming in and making the plan but they never show the guy in the back trying to build what the designer wants. Oh my aching back!