Getting to Know Your Mark V

[dusty]

Rather than continue to hijack the "510 outfeed table" thread in Maintenance and Repair, I am starting this thread.

Where is the natural cutline on a Mark V? It is on the centerline of the table insert. How wide is the table insert? It is 3" wide so the centerline (cutline) is 1 1/2" from the edge of the table insert.

Well, not exactly. The cutline can be moved by moving the table or extending the quill. To locate the natural cutline you need to retract the quill and push the headstock and carriage together using the rubber bumper on the way tube.

With the quill retracted, the left side of the blade is on the cutline.Where is the cutline with respect to the miter tracks?

The inside edges of the two miter tracks are 7" apart. The cutline is 3 1/2" from the inside edge of the two miter tracks.

This centerline is the pivot line of the Main Table when it is tilted.

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[camerio]

Wow !
What can I say, now I got it even more than before.
Just notice : should it be 1.5 inch from the edge of the insert ?

Now I have to get to work with all of this knowledge ....

Thank you very much, I am getting better at this because of this forum and its valued members like you, who do more than share by doing this extra good explanation.

[dusty]

Wow !
What can I say, now I got it even more than before.
Just notice : should it be 1.5 inch from the edge of the insert ?

Now I have to get to work with all of this knowledge ....

Thank you very much, I am getting better at this because of this forum and its valued members like you, who do more than share by doing this extra good explanation.

Yes. The cutline (left side of the blade) is centered in the insert.

[JPG]

Very nice sketchup work!!!!

The 'cutline' may deviate from this nominal position in practice(rubber spacer, quill stop, blade kerf etc. etc.).

[terrydowning]

Not to mention it is specific to 505 and up tables and carriages. The measurements are different for us humble 500 and and older machines.

I'm certain I can use some of this info and procedures to work with my "greenie"

[JPG]

Not to mention it is specific to 505 and up tables and carriages. The measurements are different for us humble 500 and and older machines.

I'm certain I can use some of this info and procedures to work with my "greenie"

Especially the absence of a rear rail!:D The rest is close I 'think'.

[dusty]

The concept is the same no matter what version of Shopsmith you have. Based on what I have experienced, I would bet that the physical relationships between the pivot line and the table are the same no matter what version you use. That is just the way the Shopsmith has evolved.

Just like depth of cut, available angle of tilt, table top height above floor level...all very close to the same.

[dusty]

Not to mention it is specific to 505 and up tables and carriages. The measurements are different for us humble 500 and and older machines.

I'm certain I can use some of this info and procedures to work with my "greenie"

If I had a 500, I would have made comments relative to the 500 but I do. Sorry!

[dusty]

Very nice sketchup work!!!!

The 'cutline' may deviate from this nominal position in practice(rubber spacer, quill stop, blade kerf etc. etc.).

Yes, if anyone has altered a standard configuration, my comments would not necessarily apply to that machine. But not with regard to the kerf. My comments (measurements) are relative to the left side of the blade; the side of the blade flush against the arbor. Kerf does not come into play.

This project was fun, informative and frustrating all at the same time. Everyone should, in my opinion, give something like this a try.

[reddog5362]

Dusty, you need to stop making me think so hard...

I'm going to have to block your posts until my head clears up

Great info as usual.