Can't Get Drill Chuck off 10e - Advice Please

Forum for people who are new to woodworking. Feel free to ask questions or contribute.

Moderator: admin

User avatar
JPG
Platinum Member
Posts: 35600
Joined: Wed Dec 10, 2008 7:42 pm
Location: Lexington, Ky (TAMECAT territory)

Post by JPG »

prmindartmouth wrote:By the way, (re the "adapter above the drill chuck") if you are looking at the ring pointed at by the red arrow in this photo:
[ATTACH]22052[/ATTACH]
It is not an adapter or part of the chuck. It retains the spindle bearings and is not removed.

Do you wear dark glasses:cool: when using that '10' to counteract all that glare?:eek:

You have put MickyD's a lu min i um polishing to shame!(and that is no small feat!!!):)


On a more serious note, a ss chuck may have different shapes and manufacturers, but all have a 5/8" bore and set screw for the spindle in common. Third party stuff is a crap shoot and does usually include 'adapters' to the 5/8" quill shaft.
╔═══╗
╟JPG ╢
╚═══╝

Goldie(Bought New SN 377425)/4" jointer/6" beltsander/12" planer/stripsander/bandsaw/powerstation /Scroll saw/Jig saw /Craftsman 10" ras/Craftsman 6" thicknessplaner/ Dayton10"tablesaw(restoredfromneighborstrashpile)/ Mark VII restoration in 'progress'/ 10
E[/size](SN E3779) restoration in progress, a 510 on the back burner and a growing pile of items to be eventually returned to useful life. - aka Red Grange
User avatar
JPG
Platinum Member
Posts: 35600
Joined: Wed Dec 10, 2008 7:42 pm
Location: Lexington, Ky (TAMECAT territory)

Post by JPG »

charlese wrote:Although I can't remember ever disagreeing with beeg before, I do recognize a small ball pein hammer a help in cases like this. The metal to metal vibration from a tap does loosen stuck objects. Same reasoning as an impact hammer. but in this case, a tap with the hammer is enough we don't want to damage the spindle or the chuck.

Try this again after the soaking recommended above.
I agree Chuck! Anything that is short of denting or other deforming is ok and desirable(maybe). Tis the impact g forces thing.

I add a small point re rotating. A more likely location for a burr occuring is near the end of the quill shaft between where the tapered flat stops and the shaft end. This area is the full shaft diameter. Any burr making the diameter larger will jam in the chuck bore.

Pulling the chuck towards the shaft end MAY cause MORE wedging as the burr is pulled further up onto the shaft od.

By rotating first the burr MAY be forced back down into the flat area.

For torque application a TIGHTLY fitting(in the key holes) rod will help. Tightly fitting so the key holes do not get deformed and the rod bent at the hole(camming out).

This endeavor is similar to MickyD's getting the quill advance knob off its shaft. He used three very long bolts and accomplished the tight fit part by using the threads in the hub and jam nuts.

A larger hammering to the rod is acceptable(MickyD had three very strange looking bolts at the end)!

Do not overlook warming the chuck.

Lotsa 'extra' penetrant helps when it breaks loose to prevent 'extra' damage.

All this also applies if a burr is on the full od part of the shaft in the flatted area caused by set screw tightening off the flat.

If it is all rust, ditto.
╔═══╗
╟JPG ╢
╚═══╝

Goldie(Bought New SN 377425)/4" jointer/6" beltsander/12" planer/stripsander/bandsaw/powerstation /Scroll saw/Jig saw /Craftsman 10" ras/Craftsman 6" thicknessplaner/ Dayton10"tablesaw(restoredfromneighborstrashpile)/ Mark VII restoration in 'progress'/ 10
E[/size](SN E3779) restoration in progress, a 510 on the back burner and a growing pile of items to be eventually returned to useful life. - aka Red Grange
charlese
Platinum Member
Posts: 7501
Joined: Fri Dec 08, 2006 10:46 pm
Location: Lancaster, CA

Post by charlese »

JPG40504 wrote: I add a small point re rotating. A more likely location for a burr occuring is near the end of the quill shaft between where the tapered flat stops and the shaft end. This area is the full shaft diameter. Any burr making the diameter larger will jam in the chuck bore.

Pulling the chuck towards the shaft end MAY cause MORE wedging as the burr is pulled further up onto the shaft od.

By rotating first the burr MAY be forced back down into the flat area.

Do not overlook warming the chuck.

Lotsa 'extra' penetrant helps when it breaks loose to prevent 'extra' damage.

All this also applies if a burr is on the full od part of the shaft in the flatted area caused by set screw tightening off the flat.

If it is all rust, ditto.

Excellent point, Red! Burrs on the end of the quill shaft can be made by a forceful sliding a chuck onto the shaft while the set screw is turned in too deep.:eek:
Octogenarian's have an earned right to be a curmudgeon.
Chuck in Lancaster, CA
User avatar
beeg
Platinum Member
Posts: 4790
Joined: Sun Oct 14, 2007 2:33 pm
Location: St. Louis,Mo.

Post by beeg »

charlese wrote:Although I can't remember ever disagreeing with beeg before, I do recognize a small ball pein hammer a help in cases like this.

That okay Chuck, disagree with my poorly stated statement. I was just worried that he may start SMACKING it on the end of the chuck. Thereby maybe damaging the bearings.
SS 500(09/1980), DC3300, jointer, bandsaw, belt sander, Strip Sander, drum sanders,molder, dado, biscuit joiner, universal lathe tool rest, Oneway talon chuck, router bits & chucks and a De Walt 735 planer,a #5,#6, block planes. ALL in a 100 square foot shop.
.
.

Bob
User avatar
JPG
Platinum Member
Posts: 35600
Joined: Wed Dec 10, 2008 7:42 pm
Location: Lexington, Ky (TAMECAT territory)

Post by JPG »

beeg wrote:That okay Chuck, disagree with my poorly stated statement. I was just worried that he may start SMACKING it on the end of the chuck. Thereby maybe damaging the bearings.
I am not gonna say what I thought he might do with a pipe wrench!:D
╔═══╗
╟JPG ╢
╚═══╝

Goldie(Bought New SN 377425)/4" jointer/6" beltsander/12" planer/stripsander/bandsaw/powerstation /Scroll saw/Jig saw /Craftsman 10" ras/Craftsman 6" thicknessplaner/ Dayton10"tablesaw(restoredfromneighborstrashpile)/ Mark VII restoration in 'progress'/ 10
E[/size](SN E3779) restoration in progress, a 510 on the back burner and a growing pile of items to be eventually returned to useful life. - aka Red Grange
User avatar
peterm
Platinum Member
Posts: 576
Joined: Mon Jan 18, 2010 2:52 pm
Location: Dartmouth, NS, Canada

Post by peterm »

JPG, re needing to wear dark glasses, I must fess up that it is not my 10ER, I grabbed the photo off a pic by MKC Tools here:
http://www.mkctools.com/10er51683.htm
He did a beautiful restoration!

Glad to see fordtrax got his chuck off. Was it just rust or was there a burr?:confused:
Peter
a 510,a Mini, dedicated SS drillpress, SS spt's, home made SS belt grinder, SS piston air system, Southbend 10k lathe, mill/drill, Taig
User avatar
JPG
Platinum Member
Posts: 35600
Joined: Wed Dec 10, 2008 7:42 pm
Location: Lexington, Ky (TAMECAT territory)

Post by JPG »

fordtrax wrote:I WD40ed and LiquidWrenched in the allen keyhole. After about an hour it slowly moved and then pulled off. The pix helped since I did not know what was under it. Looks like a Jacobs 33b chuck or or something like that may made in Conn.?
If it has a 5/8" bore, it is likely a 3326A. A 33BA has a 1/2-20 thread.
╔═══╗
╟JPG ╢
╚═══╝

Goldie(Bought New SN 377425)/4" jointer/6" beltsander/12" planer/stripsander/bandsaw/powerstation /Scroll saw/Jig saw /Craftsman 10" ras/Craftsman 6" thicknessplaner/ Dayton10"tablesaw(restoredfromneighborstrashpile)/ Mark VII restoration in 'progress'/ 10
E[/size](SN E3779) restoration in progress, a 510 on the back burner and a growing pile of items to be eventually returned to useful life. - aka Red Grange
User avatar
JPG
Platinum Member
Posts: 35600
Joined: Wed Dec 10, 2008 7:42 pm
Location: Lexington, Ky (TAMECAT territory)

Post by JPG »

prmindartmouth wrote:JPG, re needing to wear dark glasses, I must fess up that it is not my 10ER, I grabbed the photo off a pic by MKC Tools here:
http://www.mkctools.com/10er51683.htm
He did a beautiful restoration!

Glad to see fordtrax got his chuck off. Was it just rust or was there a burr?:confused:
Yep that is where MickyD(and others) got their inspiration as to what can be done with old iron(and aluminum)!:)
╔═══╗
╟JPG ╢
╚═══╝

Goldie(Bought New SN 377425)/4" jointer/6" beltsander/12" planer/stripsander/bandsaw/powerstation /Scroll saw/Jig saw /Craftsman 10" ras/Craftsman 6" thicknessplaner/ Dayton10"tablesaw(restoredfromneighborstrashpile)/ Mark VII restoration in 'progress'/ 10
E[/size](SN E3779) restoration in progress, a 510 on the back burner and a growing pile of items to be eventually returned to useful life. - aka Red Grange
User avatar
billmayo
Platinum Member
Posts: 2342
Joined: Fri Jul 21, 2006 3:31 pm
Location: Plant City, FL

Drill Chuck Removal Wedges

Post by billmayo »

I bought a set of Jacobs Drill Chuck Removal Wedges many years ago to remove the drill chuck from the Shopsmith quill shaft. They paid for themselves many times. I used the 2JT wedges and can be purchased from
http://www.mscdirect.com/FlyerView?page ... s/big-book
Bill Mayo bill.mayo@verizon.net
Shopsmith owner since 73. Sell, repair and rebuild Shopsmith, Total Shop & Wood Master headstocks, SPTs, attachments, accessories and parts. US Navy 1955-1975 (FTCS/E-8)
User avatar
joshh
Platinum Member
Posts: 723
Joined: Tue Jan 08, 2013 8:53 pm
Location: Dallas / Fort Worth, Texas

Post by joshh »

prmindartmouth wrote:JPG, re needing to wear dark glasses, I must fess up that it is not my 10ER, I grabbed the photo off a pic by MKC Tools here:
http://www.mkctools.com/10er51683.htm
He did a beautiful restoration!


I've seen it in person. Absolutely gorgeous!
- 1986 Mark V 500 Mini

- 1985 Mark V 510 with reversible motor, bandsaw, jointer, and double-tilt.

I offer quality motor reversal, rebuilding, and rewiring. Contact me at HarbourTools@live.com
Post Reply