I am so new to this that I'm not sure I'm phrasing any of this properly. I have been reading articles and stumbled on this forum last week. I have a small space in my basement that I would like to make into a woodworking area. I have heard good things about the Shopsmith and have a couple of feelers out on a 510. Here is thelink: http://moseslake.craigslist.org/tls/4792186977.html
They are asking $899 and I have offered $800. What do you think?
Thanks for any help you can give me.
Liz
I am new to all of this. Sure could use some advice.
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Re: I am new to all of this. Sure could use some advice.
Sure looks like a good deal! Has bandsaw, dust collector manual, as well as a 510! Even 5 foot tubes.
$800 is a fair deal for you!
Keep on using this forum.
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$800 is a fair deal for you!
Keep on using this forum.
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Chuck in Lancaster, CA
Chuck in Lancaster, CA
Re: I am new to all of this. Sure could use some advice.
Welcome to the forum! Prices for used Shopsmiths vary a lot by location, model, condition, basic completeness and extras/accessories. When buying a Shopsmith, you want to make sure you know what should be there and what is there and adjust your offer accordingly.
FYI, the photos don't actually show a complete 510 set up -- the parts may yet all be there just not showing up in the photo.
I see the main work table. on which is the miter gauge, rip fence, upper saw guard (presumably the lower guard is there too but that needs verification), and the extension table. Training videos and manuals.
There should be two additional floating tables, 4 connecting tubes, 2 telescoping legs, a drill chuck & key, a lathe tail stock, lathe tool rest, lathe drive center/spur, lathe cup dead center, 5 lathe chisels and at least one saw blade arbor (with a blade would be nice). EDIT: Almost forget, 12 inch sanding disc.
Basically, you want to see everything shown here http://www.shopsmith.com/markvsite/standardaccess.htm EXCEPT the 510 does not come with items 16-19.
As for extras, I see a band saw (with optional fence) and a dust collector, both of which are nice to have, and a dado set (need a dado arbor to use them).
If everything is present, I think your offer is reasonable.
FYI, the photos don't actually show a complete 510 set up -- the parts may yet all be there just not showing up in the photo.
I see the main work table. on which is the miter gauge, rip fence, upper saw guard (presumably the lower guard is there too but that needs verification), and the extension table. Training videos and manuals.
There should be two additional floating tables, 4 connecting tubes, 2 telescoping legs, a drill chuck & key, a lathe tail stock, lathe tool rest, lathe drive center/spur, lathe cup dead center, 5 lathe chisels and at least one saw blade arbor (with a blade would be nice). EDIT: Almost forget, 12 inch sanding disc.
Basically, you want to see everything shown here http://www.shopsmith.com/markvsite/standardaccess.htm EXCEPT the 510 does not come with items 16-19.
As for extras, I see a band saw (with optional fence) and a dust collector, both of which are nice to have, and a dado set (need a dado arbor to use them).
If everything is present, I think your offer is reasonable.
Gale's Law: The bigger the woodworking project, the less the mistakes show in any photo taken far enough away to show the entire project!
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rjent
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Re: I am new to all of this. Sure could use some advice.
Welcome Liz
Read this document. http://www.shopsmithacademy.com/SS_Arch ... rk%20V.pdf It gives you a complete breakdown on what to look for and how to check it out!
800 seems fair from MHO
Read this document. http://www.shopsmithacademy.com/SS_Arch ... rk%20V.pdf It gives you a complete breakdown on what to look for and how to check it out!
800 seems fair from MHO
Dick
1965 Mark VII S/N 407684
1951 10 ER S/N ER 44570 -- Reborn 9/16/14
1950 10 ER S/N ER 33479 Reborn July 2016
1950 10 ER S/N ER 39671
1951 jigsaw X 2
1951 !0 ER #3 in rebuild
500, Jointer, Bsaw, Bsander, Planer
2014 Mark 7 W/Lift assist - 14 4" Jointer - DC3300
And a plethora of small stuff .....
"The trouble with quotes on the Internet is that you can never know if they are genuine." - Benjamin Franklin
1965 Mark VII S/N 407684
1951 10 ER S/N ER 44570 -- Reborn 9/16/14
1950 10 ER S/N ER 33479 Reborn July 2016
1950 10 ER S/N ER 39671
1951 jigsaw X 2
1951 !0 ER #3 in rebuild
500, Jointer, Bsaw, Bsander, Planer
2014 Mark 7 W/Lift assist - 14 4" Jointer - DC3300
And a plethora of small stuff .....
"The trouble with quotes on the Internet is that you can never know if they are genuine." - Benjamin Franklin
Re: I am new to all of this. Sure could use some advice.
Thank you very much for all of the insight. I will study the documents you have referenced. Again, I appreciate your help.
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shopsmithpaul
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Re: I am new to all of this. Sure could use some advice.
I have had a model 510 for 25+ years and it has been a great machine. One of the strengths of Shopsmith is how well dust collection works. Better than most stand alone machines. The other replies give you all the info you need and sounds like a good deal. I would recommend trying to find a woodworking class through adult ed. or Woodcraft stores have them if you are close to one of them, to help you get started. They won't have Shopsmith tools but the techniques are the same. The big thing is to have fun.
510, bandsaw, jointer, belt sander, jointmatic
Re: I am new to all of this. Sure could use some advice.
Liz,
If you do buy the Shopsmith, please look at beginner videos and articles under the Woodworking Resources link at the top of the page. You might also see if there is anyone on here close enough to you who might give you some hands-on tutorial time such as basic maintenance and operation.
Roy
If you do buy the Shopsmith, please look at beginner videos and articles under the Woodworking Resources link at the top of the page. You might also see if there is anyone on here close enough to you who might give you some hands-on tutorial time such as basic maintenance and operation.
Roy
Roy
Mark V/510, Mark V/500 with parts for 510 upgrade, bandsaw, jointer, belt sander, DC3300 w/1 micron bag
Sawstop 3HP 36" PCS w/router table insert
Home designed and built CNC router, another CNC router
desktop size, Avid 5x10 Pro CNC w/ATC, CNCed G0704 milling machine
Laser engraver
Way too much other stuff and not enough space
Mark V/510, Mark V/500 with parts for 510 upgrade, bandsaw, jointer, belt sander, DC3300 w/1 micron bag
Sawstop 3HP 36" PCS w/router table insert
Home designed and built CNC router, another CNC router
desktop size, Avid 5x10 Pro CNC w/ATC, CNCed G0704 milling machineLaser engraver
Way too much other stuff and not enough space
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Re: I am new to all of this. Sure could use some advice.
First, welcome to the ring . . . ah forum.
Moses Lake woman sentenced for leading crime ring
I hope that does not refer to you/us!
Consider:
The bandsaw is worth up up $200.
Same for the Dust Collector.
That leaves $499 for the 510.
Assuming all the stuff is there that should be, that is also a decent price.
The condition appears very good.
Bottom line is, what is it worth to you?
I realize you have not had much time to research/compare local 'value', but IMHO that is a decent price. $800 is obviously better.
So even if the seller balks at $800, stay in the loop and make a counter offer, but I would do so in their presence.
This assumes all the stuff is there as indicated by Algale
If you are not experienced with power tools, do proceed cautiously and get some knowledge regarding safe use of them. Not to frighten, but merely to make you aware that there are hazards.
Good Luck and Happy New Year.
Moses Lake woman sentenced for leading crime ring
I hope that does not refer to you/us!
Consider:
The bandsaw is worth up up $200.
Same for the Dust Collector.
That leaves $499 for the 510.
Assuming all the stuff is there that should be, that is also a decent price.
The condition appears very good.
Bottom line is, what is it worth to you?
I realize you have not had much time to research/compare local 'value', but IMHO that is a decent price. $800 is obviously better.
So even if the seller balks at $800, stay in the loop and make a counter offer, but I would do so in their presence.
This assumes all the stuff is there as indicated by Algale
If you are not experienced with power tools, do proceed cautiously and get some knowledge regarding safe use of them. Not to frighten, but merely to make you aware that there are hazards.
Good Luck and Happy New Year.
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Goldie(Bought New SN 377425)/4" jointer/6" beltsander/12" planer/stripsander/bandsaw/powerstation /Scroll saw/Jig saw /Craftsman 10" ras/Craftsman 6" thicknessplaner/ Dayton10"tablesaw(restoredfromneighborstrashpile)/ Mark VII restoration in 'progress'/ 10E[/size](SN E3779) restoration in progress, a 510 on the back burner and a growing pile of items to be eventually returned to useful life. - aka Red Grange
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Goldie(Bought New SN 377425)/4" jointer/6" beltsander/12" planer/stripsander/bandsaw/powerstation /Scroll saw/Jig saw /Craftsman 10" ras/Craftsman 6" thicknessplaner/ Dayton10"tablesaw(restoredfromneighborstrashpile)/ Mark VII restoration in 'progress'/ 10E[/size](SN E3779) restoration in progress, a 510 on the back burner and a growing pile of items to be eventually returned to useful life. - aka Red Grange
Re: I am new to all of this. Sure could use some advice.
Liz,
That's not a bad price for that much equipment for eastern Washington. I've been watching the listings for quite a while and if it all runs, it's a good buy.
And welcome to the forum!
That's not a bad price for that much equipment for eastern Washington. I've been watching the listings for quite a while and if it all runs, it's a good buy.
And welcome to the forum!
Re: I am new to all of this. Sure could use some advice.
Thanks! I am looking at classes.