Dedicated Drill Press - 10ER or Mark 5??? Advice Please

[fordtrax]

I have mostly stand alone tools - TS/Lathe,SS planer, jointer, miter saw, BS (old general CA). I picked up a old Mark 5 in fair condition about a year ago and made it into a mini set up as a dedicated disk sander. I love the big table and variable speed.

Now I am thinking about a 2nd SS to use as a dedicated drill press. I need it to make a pretty small foot print. I thought a 10er may work okay cause I could make a small wood base and then attach the top to the wall - probably would not take much more space that a regular drill press. However, the mark 5 would give me variable speeds - not sure how compact I could make a Mark 5. Has anyone built a small base and then attached the top to the wall?

I would appreciate the thoughts on the 10ER vs the Mark 5 as a dedicated drill press - advantages/disadvantages of each? I would also appreciate ideas on how to make them into a compact dedicated drill press - perhaps tying it into the wall.

Thanks

[tomsalwasser]

I picked up a old Mark 5 in fair condition about a year ago and made it into a mini set up as a dedicated disk sander. I love the big table and variable speed.

I would enjoy seeing a few pictures of your mini dedicated disk sander, if possible. I really could use something like that. Thanks!

I would also appreciate ideas on how to make them into a compact dedicated drill press - perhaps tying it into the wall.

Jacob Anderson runs a Shopsmith repair service and also sells Shopsmith repair how-to videos. I noticed in the background of one of his excellent videos that he has a wall mounted SS drill press. I don't have any pictures but I'm sure he would email something to you. He's a very nice guy and has answered several questions I had about his drill press.

[fredsheldon]

My Shorty 10ER dedicated drill press.
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I cut the base in half but keep the standard length way tubes.

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Once in the drill press mode, it has a small footprint. If you decide to use it as a sander or table saw, you can still lower it. I have since added a speed changer. Since it has lockable casters I can roll it around as required or to park it in the corner, out of the way.

[JPG]

FWIW, a 10 E/ER with a speed changer has a greater range than a Mark 5/V.

425 - 6800 rpm.

As you have no doubt noticed, the 10 E/ER base is more amenable to mounting. The whole thing can be 'wall mounted'. If having it at a fixed location, that is ideal. I like Fred's uncut mini. When a drill press those long tubes are not in the way(except for low ceilings). The long base can be an issue.

Tis a matter of what you want most.


Most agree the 10 E/ER is a better drill press(even present day ss manufacturing thinks so!).

[fjimp]

I purchased a used 10ER in April and have been assembling a motor, cleaning and lubricating parts and over the past week shortened the stand to create my dedicated 10ER drill press. I have done a bit of drilling and am totally impressed with how well it functions. I did add a shelf to the bottom of the stand upon which I have assembled a number of extremely heavy items I am labeling "Ballast" thus have no noticeable desire to tilt. The jig on the table is a pen drilling jig I adapted yesterday from the Mark 5. I tend to agree with this being a superior option for dedicated drilling. Jim

[dgale]

I thought I read somewhere here that folks were having trouble with mortising with the MV, where the table was flexing with all the downward pressure - I presume such a problem would be greatly reduced with a 10ER, as there's not much to flex in that design.

I just wall-mounted one of my 10Es as a dedicated drill press - it was very simple to do. I haven't tried it out yet, as I'm getting some motor noise when I fired it up and need to determine if it's worn bearings or what the noise source is before I go further, but it sure looks good mounted on the wall :-)

[fredsheldon]

Yes Jim, Ballast is good I need to add something to the end of my short base to keep things level when I move my drill press. It wants to tilt when I run over something.

[skou]

[quote="JPG40504"]FWIW, a 10 E/ER with a speed changer has a greater range than a Mark 5/V.

425 - 6800 rpm.

As you have no doubt noticed, the 10 E/ER base is more amenable to mounting. The whole thing can be 'wall mounted'. If having it at a fixed location, that is ideal. I like Fred's uncut mini. When a drill press those long tubes are not in the way(except for low ceilings). The long base can be an issue.

Tis a matter of what you want most.


Most agree the 10 E/ER is a better drill press(even present day ss manufacturing thinks so!).]

The 10E or ER also makes a much better lathe, both because of the speed capability, and the added mass of all that cast iron. And, cast iron has a damping effect, even above the sheer mass of it. (We won't even mention the thicker way tubes, which add less flex.)

To this day, as JPG alluded to, E and ERs are being used as production tools at Shopsmith, making the new stuff. (and, they're getting close to 70 years old.)

If I were to do it again, I'd get a second ER, as a semi-dedicated drill-press, much as the other Parrothead has, and use it as a lathe extension too, using a system I'm envisioning. (When I get the room to do so.)

steve

[alisfair]

Wondering if anyone has cut off the lower tubes and attached the end piece and basically shortened up the length of the base and used is successfully as a dedicated dill press? Would it not be tipsy? If shortened up it would not take up as much room yet still be on casters.
What say ye?
Thanks,
Alisfair (tom)

[oldiron]

Hi Folks! New guy here! I realize this is a old post however, Does anyone have any pictures to show with a 10ER wall mounted? I want to try it out myself.

Also, Does anyone know what (Q-1) stands for on a 10ER? I'm in the process of restoring one and I'm finding this (Q-1) on virtually all of the major pieces(Headstock, carriage, base plate and swivel, etc...). I have several 10ER's and this is a first with the odd stamping.

Lastly, When I removed the name badge for repainting, I found (5-25) stamped in the headstock. I know the machine is a 1950.

Regards,
Michael