Newsflash! The Shopsmith Mark VII is back!

dusty · Post by **dusty** » Thu Jul 08, 2010 9:12 am

wlhayesmfs wrote:I am looking at doing a power pro head for my MKVll and that would then be all I would need. My MKVll is in great shape so the dual tilt and table would be great. I would lose the 520 table and fence. But in the picture I do not see a way to tilt both ways but it does look like two pins one on each end. But how does it break away at both ends?

Just pull the base arm pin.

MikeG · Post by **MikeG** » Thu Jul 08, 2010 9:40 am

nuhobby wrote:The PowerPro intro video, when Jim McCann lifts the machine to drill-press mode, actually shows a pivot-like end going up, rather than a tie-bar. Interesting!

It looks like there is a knob that goes under a pivot axle on the end in the air that would hold it down on the left side. I would guess that that would be the same on the other end.

dusty · Post by **dusty** » Thu Jul 08, 2010 10:29 am

MikeG wrote:It looks like there is a knob that goes under a pivot axle on the end in the air that would hold it down on the left side. I would guess that that would be the same on the other end.

I can't tell too well from the images that are available but all that needs to be is some sorta mod to the base arm pin assembly.

What has been curious now though is what is being done to the carriage and/or table assembly to make it usable when pivoted on the left side rather than as now (on the right side).

truxton · Post by **truxton** » Thu Jul 08, 2010 11:52 am

I have a VII and have used it extensively and am excited to see this "evolution" of the shopsmith tool. With the VII it is very easy to tilt if the headstock is at the down tilting side. Its a perfect height for shapeing but the existing machine does not have the RPMs you need, it works but not well. The 10,000 RPM's of the new motor would be ideal for shapeing. When in the drill press configuration the VII is a little low to be comfortable, its better to pull up a stool and sit down for any multiple cuts. Does anyone here know if the new motor and controller will retro fit into a MKVII? If it does count me in. Thank you Shopsmith!

beeg · Post by **beeg** » Thu Jul 08, 2010 12:01 pm

It has been said here that the markV headstock will fit the markvii way tubes. One way to be sure is call SS CS.

dusty · Post by **dusty** » Thu Jul 08, 2010 12:51 pm

beeg wrote:It has been said here that the markV headstock will fit the markvii way tubes. One way to be sure is call SS CS.

And when you called what did you learn?

BTW The Mark V headstock will, repeat will fit on the Mark VII ways. I have that second and third hand from very reliable sources.

tom_k/mo · Post by **tom_k/mo** » Thu Jul 08, 2010 4:06 pm

Wonder if they will offer any retrofit option to retrofit a MkV to a MkVII???

JPG · Post by **JPG** » Thu Jul 08, 2010 4:45 pm

After looking at the video and the last view(the one where it is being 'polished', it appears that the knob referred to on the left end has a twin on the right end. Looking at the earlier view of it being raised to vertical(right end) the casting appears to have two notches that fit over the 'pivot pin'. I believe the knobs are for locking down in horizontal position.

The right end still has the screw upright lock, but the left end does not. I believe that one is unnecessary due to the center of gravity becoming very low due to the headstock being positioned low. edit - or it may have one on the back side - same casting for both ends.

The way bench tube castings have what appears to be a slot for the way tube casting notched(open sided) holes. That would provide alignment when lowered to horizontal position.

I do not believe the current lift assist would work without modification since it attaches to the way tubes. It is redundant when raising it to the left due to the center of gravity being low. You probably have to hold it back to prevent slamming into vertical.

Rack on both sides of the table support tubes - Interesting and simple solution!

SDSSmith · Post by **SDSSmith** » Thu Jul 08, 2010 5:48 pm

JPG40504 wrote:....Rack on both sides of the table support tubes - Interesting and simple solution!

My eyes are not good enough to see a rack on both sides of the table support tubes. But, I thought the table trunnion looks different. I do not see the locking handle where I expect to see it, offset to the right of the support tubes centerline.

JPG · Post by **JPG** » Thu Jul 08, 2010 5:58 pm

SDSSmith wrote:My eyes are not good enough to see a rack on both sides of the table support tubes. But, I thought the table trunnion looks different. I do not see the locking handle where I expect to see it, offset to the right of the support tubes centerline.

I did not see any rack teeth either, I was commenting on that being mentioned in an earlier post. i.e. conjecture at this point.

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