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New member in Ontario, Can
Hi all,
Have just recently become the proud owner of a new (to me) 1956 Mark V. Pictures will follow, when I figure how to post them. It is in very good condition, although a bit of surface rust on the lower tubes. Paint and all aluminium in excellent shape. Best of all everything seems to work. A few quick questions for the knowledgable ones if you don't mind:
1) the speed dial works and adjusts very smoothly, however at the end of travel on the high speed end, it makes a sudden grinding noise. Should there be a stop of some kind to prevent overtravel of the speed control?
2) should there be a depth stop for the quill? I can move it in or out, lock it in place, but everything is manual. Should it have a spring return as well?
3) While I have quite a bit of general woodworking experience, I have never done work with a wood lathe. I want to build up my skills before trying turning bowls. On my property I have windfall cherry tree with numerous 'good' sections 12"-16" diameter. The question is how can I preserve the wood so that it will good to turn when I have developed some turning skills?
In advance I truly appreciate any and all input, and thank-you all for such an informative site!
Mike
Have just recently become the proud owner of a new (to me) 1956 Mark V. Pictures will follow, when I figure how to post them. It is in very good condition, although a bit of surface rust on the lower tubes. Paint and all aluminium in excellent shape. Best of all everything seems to work. A few quick questions for the knowledgable ones if you don't mind:
1) the speed dial works and adjusts very smoothly, however at the end of travel on the high speed end, it makes a sudden grinding noise. Should there be a stop of some kind to prevent overtravel of the speed control?
2) should there be a depth stop for the quill? I can move it in or out, lock it in place, but everything is manual. Should it have a spring return as well?
3) While I have quite a bit of general woodworking experience, I have never done work with a wood lathe. I want to build up my skills before trying turning bowls. On my property I have windfall cherry tree with numerous 'good' sections 12"-16" diameter. The question is how can I preserve the wood so that it will good to turn when I have developed some turning skills?
In advance I truly appreciate any and all input, and thank-you all for such an informative site!
Mike
Welcome to the forum mscott.
1)Have ya cleaned and lubed up the Mark V yet?
2)Yes it should have a return on the quill. Try cleaning the teeth under the quill and waxing the quill also. The depth stop is the knob and dial on the other side of the lock down.
3) Seal the ends of the logs with end seal or latex paint.
1)Have ya cleaned and lubed up the Mark V yet?
2)Yes it should have a return on the quill. Try cleaning the teeth under the quill and waxing the quill also. The depth stop is the knob and dial on the other side of the lock down.
3) Seal the ends of the logs with end seal or latex paint.
SS 500(09/1980), DC3300, jointer, bandsaw, belt sander, Strip Sander, drum sanders,molder, dado, biscuit joiner, universal lathe tool rest, Oneway talon chuck, router bits & chucks and a De Walt 735 planer,a #5,#6, block planes. ALL in a 100 square foot shop.
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Welcome mscott_45 to the best forum on the web IMO
. I'm glad you got the SS I think you will love it.
You have very good questions, but I won't answer them directly because there are many more knowledgeable people here than I. However, I would recommend that before you start making sawdust, take time to read the manual (if you got one, if not, it would be wise to get one). Then take time to clean, lube, make adjustments necessary to get square and plumb.
For reference Shopsmith offers free online videos called Sawdust Sessions and these four would be a great start:
1) http://www.shopsmithacademy.com/SS_Arch ... _Index.htm
2)http://www.shopsmithacademy.com/SS_Arch ... _Index.htm
3)http://www.shopsmithacademy.com/SS_Arch ... _Index.htm
4)http://www.shopsmithacademy.com/SS_Arch ... _Index.htm
in that order. Also use the blackboard section to the right of the video box to see what other resources you can use. The checklist for example.
Lastly another forum member JPG40504 posted some excellent posts on headstock reassembly. the links for those posts are here:
1) https://forum.shopsmith.com/viewtopic.php?t=3765
2) https://forum.shopsmith.com/viewtopic.php?t=3776
3) https://forum.shopsmith.com/viewtopic.php?t=3777
4) https://forum.shopsmith.com/viewtopic.php?t=3779
5) https://forum.shopsmith.com/viewtopic.php?t=3770
6) https://forum.shopsmith.com/viewtopic.php?t=3771
7) https://forum.shopsmith.com/viewtopic.php?t=3766
8) https://forum.shopsmith.com/viewtopic.php?t=3764
He was kind enough to provide very detailed images that will assist you a lot. In fact if you search all the threads he has started, you will find a lot more information than I copy/pasted to this reply.
So, I hope you enjoy your machine and keep safe
You have very good questions, but I won't answer them directly because there are many more knowledgeable people here than I. However, I would recommend that before you start making sawdust, take time to read the manual (if you got one, if not, it would be wise to get one). Then take time to clean, lube, make adjustments necessary to get square and plumb.
For reference Shopsmith offers free online videos called Sawdust Sessions and these four would be a great start:
1) http://www.shopsmithacademy.com/SS_Arch ... _Index.htm
2)http://www.shopsmithacademy.com/SS_Arch ... _Index.htm
3)http://www.shopsmithacademy.com/SS_Arch ... _Index.htm
4)http://www.shopsmithacademy.com/SS_Arch ... _Index.htm
in that order. Also use the blackboard section to the right of the video box to see what other resources you can use. The checklist for example.
Lastly another forum member JPG40504 posted some excellent posts on headstock reassembly. the links for those posts are here:
1) https://forum.shopsmith.com/viewtopic.php?t=3765
2) https://forum.shopsmith.com/viewtopic.php?t=3776
3) https://forum.shopsmith.com/viewtopic.php?t=3777
4) https://forum.shopsmith.com/viewtopic.php?t=3779
5) https://forum.shopsmith.com/viewtopic.php?t=3770
6) https://forum.shopsmith.com/viewtopic.php?t=3771
7) https://forum.shopsmith.com/viewtopic.php?t=3766
8) https://forum.shopsmith.com/viewtopic.php?t=3764
He was kind enough to provide very detailed images that will assist you a lot. In fact if you search all the threads he has started, you will find a lot more information than I copy/pasted to this reply.
So, I hope you enjoy your machine and keep safe
Scott;
Welcome to the forum!! The grinding that you hear at the high speed end may be the "pork chop" end of the speed control coming in contact with the control sheave. This is caused by the high speed stop not being set properly. Go to the SS archives and get into the sawdust sessions and look for the section titled "Making a high speed adjustment"
You will find all the info that you need there.
Bill V
Welcome to the forum!! The grinding that you hear at the high speed end may be the "pork chop" end of the speed control coming in contact with the control sheave. This is caused by the high speed stop not being set properly. Go to the SS archives and get into the sawdust sessions and look for the section titled "Making a high speed adjustment"
You will find all the info that you need there.
Bill V
Here's the procedure for the high speed adjustment.
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SS 500(09/1980), DC3300, jointer, bandsaw, belt sander, Strip Sander, drum sanders,molder, dado, biscuit joiner, universal lathe tool rest, Oneway talon chuck, router bits & chucks and a De Walt 735 planer,a #5,#6, block planes. ALL in a 100 square foot shop.
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Bob
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Bob
Thanks for all your advice!
Thanks for the welcome and the input. I will hopefully be able to get at it this weekend and start to find out what's going on.
After having looked through most of the links and suggestions (and without opening up my SS) I still do not understand where the spring return action originates for the quill return? I do not see any particluar spring in the documentation or pictures. Is it some kind of torsion spring inside another part?
Thanks all, and I will post some pictures soon!
Mike
After having looked through most of the links and suggestions (and without opening up my SS) I still do not understand where the spring return action originates for the quill return? I do not see any particluar spring in the documentation or pictures. Is it some kind of torsion spring inside another part?
Thanks all, and I will post some pictures soon!
Mike
The spring is in a housing on the back side of the headstock (part 40 in the following view): http://www.shopsmith.com/ownersite/part ... xpview.htmmscott_45 wrote:Thanks for the welcome and the input. I will hopefully be able to get at it this weekend and start to find out what's going on.
After having looked through most of the links and suggestions (and without opening up my SS) I still do not understand where the spring return action originates for the quill return? I do not see any particluar spring in the documentation or pictures. Is it some kind of torsion spring inside another part?
Thanks all, and I will post some pictures soon!
Mike
Rob in San Diego
Email: SDSSmith51 AT gmail.com
Email: SDSSmith51 AT gmail.com
Now with Pics
As promised, here are some quick pics taken tonight.
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I also spent a few minutes on the quill and spring return. Am very pleased to say that I now have spring return. Quite clean inside and it appears that someone has retrofitted the second bearing in the quill. I am also thrilled with the simplicity of the design and the ease of working on it. Once I have the high speed adjusted, everything should be grand and ready for some serious work.
Thanks again for all the help being posted. Being new to a forum and getting this quality help and comments is refreshing and heartwarming!
Mike
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I also spent a few minutes on the quill and spring return. Am very pleased to say that I now have spring return. Quite clean inside and it appears that someone has retrofitted the second bearing in the quill. I am also thrilled with the simplicity of the design and the ease of working on it. Once I have the high speed adjusted, everything should be grand and ready for some serious work.
Thanks again for all the help being posted. Being new to a forum and getting this quality help and comments is refreshing and heartwarming!
Mike
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