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dan1999 wrote:You must realize that not all thing have to logical example potatoes are not taxable but potato chips are! Nuts that are not salted are not taxable add a little salt and bingo cash cow for the government. In Canada a muffin bought at Tim Hortons is taxable, 6 are not. Your government damed near collapsed because of agendas by politicians and you ask about logic. Unfortunately not all things can be rationalized.

You are correct on several points. There is no logic in irrational 'thinking'.

I have never stated anywhere that I thought the 'individuals' running the U. S. Government are rational beings!

God Ed I hope that stuff you encountered is a FL thing. But then I do not anticipate ever sending anything to a 'repair center' myself.

Muffins tax/1 no tax/6! And you say 'our' government is flakey? Seems some has rubbed off on each other!. Perhaps the 'thinking' is that one is purchased for immediate consumption(like a restaurant) but 6 is for taking home first(like a grocery store). We gots the same thing! Restaurant food taxed, groceries not. A bunch of rules identifying what is/isnot 'groceries'. Junk food(pop/chips/candy...) is taxed.

Yer correct; much 'regulation' is a fund raiser rather than consumer protection.

End Rant!:)

On UK sites, power tools have to be 110v. Most workies have their own transformer, a big yellow lump, which isolates them from the grid.

A couple of months ago a toddler died after the handyman neighbour that fitted the mothers new cooker (range) left an old cord on the sofa. Mother busy in kitchen, toddler plugged in the cord and the mother found her poor son dead on the carpet.

Licence needed for both gas and electrical work here but it's rarely enforced. afoaf that teaches sparkies got a new job and he quit in less than a week as they were just milking government grants and not at all interested in teaching people how to be a good electrician.

Was a survey here saying that 70% of males have never used a screwdriver. Sounds doubtful to me but whatever the % is, it seems to be getting higher each year.

e2a: here you need a licence to sell 1 bottle of wine. Sell wine by the case (12 bottles) and you don't need a licence.

I have always thought that OSHA regulations were limited to federal and commercial operations. Is that no longer true (or maybe it never was).

Hi,

No cut off cords here in my area...

This item contains no id information just the theft prevention tag (blown before you get out of the store, unknown state if it is mail order?)

BTW you can go here to read about the system:

http://www.bgintr.com/html/e_products.htm

Ed

Must be a Florida thing.

We use new cords all the time (not originals), new plugs on the cords too. They are put on by a licensed electrician that we have on payroll. Where companies get nailed all the time is on the grounded plugs. If the ground prong is missing - whamo - here's your fine. Ungrounded cords can only be used if the tool is double insulated, UL approved. All of our tools that come in without a ground have the plugs removed and a new grounded plug properly installed, that way there is no chance of a mistake like that.

I have had personal tools (yes more than one:o ) taken in without the original cord and there was never even a question about it.

OSHA is federal, however states may have their own version as long as it is at LEAST as stringent as the OSHA guiodelines. We have MIOSHA (the Michigan version of OSHA)

What you've got is a misunderstanding of the OSHA standard.

http://www.osha.gov/pls/oshaweb/owadisp ... p_id=24571

foxtrapper wrote:What you've got is a misunderstanding of the OSHA standard.

http://www.osha.gov/pls/oshaweb/owadisp.show_document?p_table=INTERPRETATIONS&p_id=24571

A misunderstanding (even of their clarifications) is easy to understand.

One most carefully read each and every sentence and cross reference what is said to embedded references and definitions of acronyms in order to achieve an understanding.

What ever happened to the requirement that all government writings be at or below the grade school level. I think the specific level was the fifth grade - meaning short, SIMPLE sentences.

dusty wrote:A misunderstanding (even of their clarifications) is easy to understand.

One most carefully read each and every sentence and cross reference what is said to embedded references and definitions of acronyms in order to achieve an understanding.

What ever happened to the requirement that all government writings be at or below the grade school level. I think the specific level was the fifth grade - meaning short, SIMPLE sentences.

There are those (frequently in government) that think frequent use of big or uncommon words will make them appear to be an aristophren...


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robinson46176 wrote:There are those (frequently in government) that think frequent use of big or uncommon words will make them appear to be an aristophren...


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I quite Agree.

I notice the 'letter' was applicable to Double Insulated tools.

That makes it somewhat more rational, however since when is a 'hobbyist' a part of the construction industry?

P.S. Also "yes" and "no" as an answer is not possible with their aristophrenic attitude. They do not have the backbone to give direct answers, they obsfusciate with wordy responses that require the reader to make the decision based on their dizzy promugulations(?).

Excuse me while I go and HUG my ER!!

Think just how illegal that would be now. Heck, the instruction manual showed how YOU install YOUR motor and power cord to it!! I imagine that OSHA would be doing backflips!

steve