5/8" vs. 1 1/4" arbors for blades?

Forum for people who are new to woodworking. Feel free to ask questions or contribute.

Moderator: admin

Post Reply
User avatar
jtevans
Gold Member
Posts: 45
Joined: Sun Mar 03, 2013 9:12 pm
Location: Evans, WV.

5/8" vs. 1 1/4" arbors for blades?

Post by jtevans »

I'm attempting to upgrade from 500-to-510 syatem, but am reading confusing talk about needing to use 1 1/4" arbor for saw blades, for clearances of new saw guards, top and bottom. Is the difference in the 5/8"-to-1 1/4" arbors in the size of hole in the center of the saw blade? or does this refer to the length of the individual arbors, for clearance of saw guards?

Any help on this would be appreciated...
User avatar
SDSSmith
Platinum Member
Posts: 1940
Joined: Mon Dec 04, 2006 6:35 pm
Location: San Diego, CA

Post by SDSSmith »

jtevans wrote:I'm attempting to upgrade from 500-to-510 syatem, but am reading confusing talk about needing to use 1 1/4" arbor for saw blades, for clearances of new saw guards, top and bottom. Is the difference in the 5/8"-to-1 1/4" arbors in the size of hole in the center of the saw blade? or does this refer to the length of the individual arbors, for clearance of saw guards?

Any help on this would be appreciated...
It refers to the bore size of the blade and you use the arbor size that matches the bore of the saw blade. The 510/520 versions of the 1-1/4" and 5/8" arbors are longer than the corresponding ones for the 500. The 500 versions will not work with the 510/520 blade guards.
Rob in San Diego
Email: SDSSmith51 AT gmail.com
User avatar
jtevans
Gold Member
Posts: 45
Joined: Sun Mar 03, 2013 9:12 pm
Location: Evans, WV.

Post by jtevans »

SDSSmith wrote:It refers to the bore size of the blade and you use the arbor size that matches the bore of the saw blade. The 510/520 versions of the 1-1/4" and 5/8" arbors are longer than the corresponding ones for the 500. The 500 versions will not work with the 510/520 blade guards.
Thanks for the response to my question. I was thinking that there was a "length" difference between the two, so that the blade could sit square in the guard assembly, correct?
User avatar
heathicus
Platinum Member
Posts: 2648
Joined: Wed Oct 22, 2008 1:02 am
Location: WhoDat Nation

Post by heathicus »

Right. There's a 500 and a 510/520 version of each 5/8" and 1-1/4" abors.

I was under the impression that with a 500 arbor on a 510/520, you could just extend the quill to make up the distance. But maybe that's just to hit the slot in the table?
Heath
Central Louisiana
-10ER - SN 13927, Born 1949, Acquired October 2008, Restored November, 2008
-10ER - SN 35630, Born 1950, Acquired April 2009, Restored May 2009, A34 Jigsaw
-Mark V - SN 212052, Born 1986, Acquired Sept 2009, Restored March 2010, Bandsaw
-10ER - SN 39722, Born 1950, Acquired March 2011, awaiting restoration
User avatar
JPG
Platinum Member
Posts: 35600
Joined: Wed Dec 10, 2008 7:42 pm
Location: Lexington, Ky (TAMECAT territory)

Post by JPG »

heathicus wrote:Right. There's a 500 and a 510/520 version of each 5/8" and 1-1/4" abors.

I was under the impression that with a 500 arbor on a 510/520, you could just extend the quill to make up the distance. But maybe that's just to hit the slot in the table?
That is as I unnerstanit.

But I 'think' to position in the guard as well.

Is my 'thinking' correct?:confused:
╔═══╗
╟JPG ╢
╚═══╝

Goldie(Bought New SN 377425)/4" jointer/6" beltsander/12" planer/stripsander/bandsaw/powerstation /Scroll saw/Jig saw /Craftsman 10" ras/Craftsman 6" thicknessplaner/ Dayton10"tablesaw(restoredfromneighborstrashpile)/ Mark VII restoration in 'progress'/ 10
E[/size](SN E3779) restoration in progress, a 510 on the back burner and a growing pile of items to be eventually returned to useful life. - aka Red Grange
User avatar
videobear
Gold Member
Posts: 180
Joined: Tue Aug 21, 2012 12:24 pm
Location: northern VA

Post by videobear »

No. The guard is mounted to the motor, not the table
Regards,
Doug

Shopsmith Mark V ->Mark 7, bandsaw, jointer, planer, belt sander
User avatar
JPG
Platinum Member
Posts: 35600
Joined: Wed Dec 10, 2008 7:42 pm
Location: Lexington, Ky (TAMECAT territory)

Post by JPG »

videobear wrote:No. The guard is mounted to the motor, not the table
Ah so! The guard is attached to the quill and would move with it.:o

Hopefully that is my 'oversight for the day'!:D

My lack of experience with a blade guard has been exposed!;)

What will it be tomorrow?:rolleyes:
╔═══╗
╟JPG ╢
╚═══╝

Goldie(Bought New SN 377425)/4" jointer/6" beltsander/12" planer/stripsander/bandsaw/powerstation /Scroll saw/Jig saw /Craftsman 10" ras/Craftsman 6" thicknessplaner/ Dayton10"tablesaw(restoredfromneighborstrashpile)/ Mark VII restoration in 'progress'/ 10
E[/size](SN E3779) restoration in progress, a 510 on the back burner and a growing pile of items to be eventually returned to useful life. - aka Red Grange
User avatar
jtevans
Gold Member
Posts: 45
Joined: Sun Mar 03, 2013 9:12 pm
Location: Evans, WV.

Lower guard...

Post by jtevans »

You would have thought that, since the guards are plastic, and they mount on the motor, that someone, (Shopsmith), would have thought far enough ahead, to mold the lower guard so the clearances would be there without having two different arbor lengths, thereby confusing, "US", "the-general-woodcrafting-public"...just a thought !!!
User avatar
terrydowning
Platinum Member
Posts: 1678
Joined: Mon Jul 19, 2010 3:26 pm
Location: Windsor, CO

Post by terrydowning »

The problem is not the guard per se. It's the larger table of the 505 Plus.

wider table means further distance from the headstock to the blade cut out.
--
Terry
Copy and paste the URLs into your browser if you want to see the photos.

1955 Shopsmith Mark 5 S/N 296860 Workshop and Tools
https://1drv.ms/i/s!AmpX5k8IhN7ahFCo9VvTDsCpoV_g

Public Photos of Projects
http://sdrv.ms/MaXNLX
User avatar
JPG
Platinum Member
Posts: 35600
Joined: Wed Dec 10, 2008 7:42 pm
Location: Lexington, Ky (TAMECAT territory)

Post by JPG »

terrydowning wrote:The problem is not the guard per se. It's the larger table of the 505 Plus.

wider table means further distance from the headstock to the blade cut out.
And THAT is the real reason for the two sizes. The 505+ guard was designed to accept the 505+ arbors.

A 'common' lower guard for both 500 and 505+ is unattainable since the 500 does not have room for the 505+ guard.
╔═══╗
╟JPG ╢
╚═══╝

Goldie(Bought New SN 377425)/4" jointer/6" beltsander/12" planer/stripsander/bandsaw/powerstation /Scroll saw/Jig saw /Craftsman 10" ras/Craftsman 6" thicknessplaner/ Dayton10"tablesaw(restoredfromneighborstrashpile)/ Mark VII restoration in 'progress'/ 10
E[/size](SN E3779) restoration in progress, a 510 on the back burner and a growing pile of items to be eventually returned to useful life. - aka Red Grange
Post Reply