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JKRodd

Just curious if anyone is close to mine, thank you for the information though.

chapmanruss

The closest Mark V I have had to yours was from March 1982 that I restored and resold.

FATpauly1234

I have a model# 10-e serial# e-7853. Do you know when it was made

dusty

FATpauly1234 wroteI have a model# 10-e serial# e-7853. Do you know when it was made

Welcome to the forum.

Sorry, I don't know the answer to your question but rest assured...it will be answered by someone here.

Again, Welcome

FATpauly1234

Are you looked up in called the company and they were tell me There was saying 1948 to 1949 they do not have any more information because that's when they bought the company before that. It was on by someone and thay have no information on it

br549

I found this listing of 10E and 10ER Serial Numbers in Everett Davis' Google Drive. He has a whole folder devoted to 10E and 10ER info. His thread is entitled "Shopsmith Large Format Drawings, Illustrations and More", and is one of the first three threads in the Maintenance and Repair Forum. It and the other two "stickies" (because they always stay in the top three) are highly recommended for new and old members alike.

Based on the first model reportedly being number 1001 (not counting the models sold in Australia), yours may have been built about 15 months after that, or early 1949 (SWAG)

10ERsurvey by Serial modified by Everett L Davis.pdf

chapmanruss

When was my Model 10E or 10ER made is a question that comes up every so often. Any answer to that question is a "best" guess. There are no known records of serial number production dates for the Model 10's like there is for a lot of the Mark 5/V's. A few owners have original sales receipts that came with there Model 10 which helps. The first 250 Model 10E Shopsmiths were made and crated just in time for shipping to the West Coast Montgomery Ward stores November 15, 1947. Some information about the Shopsmith tool has the date as October but Everett Davis, our Shopsmith Historian, has copies of Magna Engineering documents that shows the real original shipment as November 15, 1947. Orders soon exceeded Magna's ability to keep up production in only the California plant so an Eastern company was contracted to produce the Model 10E for the Eastern US. E-7853 should have been made in 1948 in the Eastern Plant.

Another clue as to when one was made is known dates of changes made to the Shopsmith. There were many changes made to the Shopsmith as it went from 10E to 10ER. Yes, those labeled as Model ER are actually a 10ER. One change was replacing the wood extension table with a metal extension table before October 1949. That change occurred on Shopsmiths in the 20000 Serial Number range.

As always we love sharing pictures of our Shopsmiths and seeing what others have too.

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FATpauly1234

Thank you for all your help

SkullsquadronX

I have a May-June 1982 Shopsmith V 500 acc was to the chart.

I got a few receipts with it most have the 1982 date on them.

bainin

Just looked at mine out of curiosity.

51-001381

I guess this puts me in roughly Feb 1986 timeframe.

The 3 months Jan/Feb/Mar '86 not being assigned, but using the Apr start # 2291

and a total of 90 days (Jan-Mar) minus weekends (22 days) means they were producing on average 33 units per day. Does that seem reasonable?

b

chapmanruss

bainin said

Just looked at mine out of curiosity.

51-001381

I guess this puts me in roughly Feb 1986 timeframe.

The 3 months Jan/Feb/Mar 96 not being assigned, but using the Apr start # 2291

and a total of 90 days (Jan-Mar) minus weekends (22 days) means they were producing on average 33 units per day. Does that seem reasonable?

That is probably as good of a guess as any. The Mark V 510 (and the now almost forgotten 505) were introduced in 1985 but I do not know in what month or the starting serial number.

thunderbirdbat

chapmanruss wrote That is probably as good of a guess as any. The Mark V 510 (and the now almost forgotten 505) were introduced in 1985 but I do not know in what month or the starting serial number.

Also, how long after the introduction of the 505/510 was the 500 still made and sold? Today the 510, 520 and Mk 7 are all available for purchase new from SS.

chapmanruss

Brenda asked,

Also, how long after the introduction of the 505/510 was the 500 still made and sold? Today the 510, 520 and Mk 7 are all available for purchase new from SS.

That is a question I have not found out the answer to yet. The 500 and 505 were discontinued after the 520 came out but I have to research when that was. I need to spend some time looking at old catalogs to find when they were no longer included. I hope I have the right catalogs to find that out. Of course, if anybody else knows when, let us know.

Nyth63

reible wroteHi,

At some point (in the 50's) a company called Yuba Power Products acquired Magna Engineering.

Yuba then sold it to a group of employees who created the Magna American Corp. They moved sometime around 1964. That company ended on 31 Dec 1966.

Ed

It appears that Yuba aquired Magna in March 1958:

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/36610517/yuba_acquires_magna/

They sold it to the employee group just over three years later in June 1961:

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/36611127/yuba_sells_magna/

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chapmanruss

Kenn,

Thanks for the links to the newspaper articles. It is always nice to see documentation from the time it happened to confirm what we know or think we know about the history of the Shopsmith. The March 1958 article did not mention that Yuba Consolidated Industries also purchased another company that they merged with Magna to become Yuba Power Products and made the Yard Smith Power garden tools too.

Nyth63

I am guessing that you are referring to Weber Products. They bought them two months after buying Magna.

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/37665218/yuba_acquires_weber_products/

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/37665407/weber_products_bought_by_california/

chapmanruss

Yes, I was referring to Weber Products.

gac5ss

My recently purchased MkV with 520 fence has a model # 555540 and a serial number of 072793. Does this mean that the mfg date is July 27, 1993? It has the red paddle power switch.

The SPT's all have serial numbers in the format of "xx-xx-xx", which is easily identifiable as a date.

Would I be correct in assuming my 520 has been upgraded to the 520 fence? According to my research, the 520 wasn't sold until 1999. No documentation / manuals came with my purchase. https://www.shopsmith.com/ownersite/faq/markv.htm

dusty

Your conclusions are all correct. I have a 510 purchased that same year and it is now a 520 (upgraded).

Chad

I have the option to buy an old "Goldie". Serial # 379185. I'm guessing that was early 1963? Also guessing it has the 1 & 1/8 h.p. motor?

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