Heads Up - Bargain 'available'

ERLover

Hey, just posted as it said, dont blame me if he has it wrong. ''What difference does it make at this point"!!!!! HRC, LOL, no actually cry!!

skou

Beave2012 wrote
sreilly24590 wroteSo really a Mark V.
Old mark vii. Interesting find of he will take a low offer. Not the same SS a Mark 7 (power pro). It's a neat machine worth a small investment.

He's asking a dollar. How much you gonna chisel him down to?

49 cents? :D

I wonder if the vacuum still works?

steve

billmayo

Around 10 years ago, I acquired 2 really cheap non-operating Mark VIIs, bad speed control assemblies and other problems. I liked the idea of a over and under table position for the headstock. I adapted the reversible Mark VII motor to fit in the Mark V headstock ( motor mounts & cut off blower shaft)and used a modified Mark V base arm with locking knob and Mark V base at each end for the double tilt. I used the Mark VII carriage, main and extension table. The Mark VII main table will tilt 90 deg in both directions. I believed this was an excellent replacement for the Mark VII at that time and a good use of the Mark VII parts on a Mark V frame. I was able to quickly sell these units, (no pictures saved) but never found any more really cheap Mark VIIs to play with.

greasemonkey2275

I have a dilemma that relates to the bargain "available" that I would love your input on. I recently contacted a seller who has a 10ER that is supposed to be complete that they want out of their garage. I talked them down on the price but here lies the problem; I really do not have the space in my garage nor do I really "need" another SS (I only have one). I hate to pass up on this "smoking" deal but I would really appreciate your thoughts.

Beave2012

greasemonkey2275 wroteI have a dilemma that relates to the bargain "available" that I would love your input on. I recently contacted a seller who has a 10ER that is supposed to be complete that they want out of their garage. I talked them down on the price but here lies the problem; I really do not have the space in my garage nor do I really "need" another SS (I only have one). I hate to pass up on this "smoking" deal but I would really appreciate your thoughts.

Option 1, don't barter on something you don't want / can have.

Option 2, store it next to your bed... Aka make room. :)

rpd

greasemonkey2275 wroteI have a dilemma that relates to the bargain "available" that I would love your input on. I recently contacted a seller who has a 10ER that is supposed to be complete that they want out of their garage. I talked them down on the price but here lies the problem; I really do not have the space in my garage nor do I really "need" another SS (I only have one). I hate to pass up on this "smoking" deal but I would really appreciate your thoughts.

You can shorten the base or make a short base for it and make a nice dedicated drill press.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IErSBgATkQo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bEl4ghRIwbs

algale

greasemonkey2275 wroteI have a dilemma that relates to the bargain "available" that I would love your input on. I recently contacted a seller who has a 10ER that is supposed to be complete that they want out of their garage. I talked them down on the price but here lies the problem; I really do not have the space in my garage nor do I really "need" another SS (I only have one). I hate to pass up on this "smoking" deal but I would really appreciate your thoughts.

Do you already have all the SPTs you want and need? They take up space, too. I'd rather have a full compliment of Shopsmith SPTs than a 10ER that really just duplicates functions you can already perform on the Mark V. Even if If you've got all the SPTs and have room for a 10ER, consider whether you'd be better off with another Mark V, possibly converted to a mini or shorty, to run those SPTs.

JPG

Getting nit picky this time!!!

There be Mark 5s

There be Mark VIIs

There be Mark Vs

There be Mark 7s

Listed in vintage order.

The mark Vs come in three OEM versions 505(early and later), 510, 520.

And yes that Madison CL is a Mark VII with an interesting front cover modification. BTW it is tagged as both a Mark VII and a Mark 7( even 'Magna' could not get it straight! :D ).]!

GO GET IT!!!!! ASAP!!!!! :) Missing some stuff.

JPG

skou wrote
Beave2012 wrote
sreilly24590 wroteSo really a Mark V.
Old mark vii. Interesting find of he will take a low offer. Not the same SS a Mark 7 (power pro). It's a neat machine worth a small investment.
He's asking a dollar. How much you gonna chisel him down to?

49 cents? :D

I wonder if the vacuum still works?

steve

He is soliciting offers. That 1$ is just to get attention. Common scheme.

The vac blower housing appears to be missing.

Questions are; Speed Control Cam, Rack gear?

Power switch appears intact(functional??).

sreilly24590

Thanks for the history lesson. I had thought that the Mark 7 was another way to write Mark VII. Learn something new everyday.

kdockan

Well, I am the lucky sucker who bought the Mark VII. I really should have done more research on this. I did not realize that it was that old. It has some kind of problem with the switch and the vacuum did not come with it. Can I still get a replacement switch and belts for this thing?

ERLover

Well I needs da know, did you get it for $1.00? For my ER buddy Steve. ;)

skou

JPG wroteGetting nit picky this time!!!

There be Mark 5s

There be Mark VIIs

There be Mark Vs

There be Mark 7s

Listed in vintage order.

The mark Vs come in three OEM versions 505(early and later), 510, 520.

And yes that Madison CL is a Mark VII with an interesting front cover modification. BTW it is tagged as both a Mark VII and a Mark 7( even 'Magna' could not get it straight! :D ).]!

GO GET IT!!!!! ASAP!!!!! :) Missing some stuff.

Forgot a couple.

Which is surprising, because you HAVE one of them. :D

steve

ERLover

Steve, you are up and about a few hours earlier then usual!!! :confused:

skou

Can someone fax me a trout,

because I need to SLAP another

ER Lover! :D

steve

JPG

skou wrote
JPG wroteGetting nit picky this time!!!

There be Mark 5s

There be Mark 2s. That make ya feel better?

There be Mark VIIs

There be Mark Vs

There be Mark 7s

Listed in vintage order.

The mark Vs come in three OEM versions 505(early and later), 510, 520.

And yes that Madison CL is a Mark VII with an interesting front cover modification. BTW it is tagged as both a Mark VII and a Mark 7( even 'Magna' could not get it straight! :D ).]!

GO GET IT!!!!! ASAP!!!!! :) Missing some stuff.
Forgot a couple.

Which is surprising, because you HAVE one of them. :D

steve

And in addition to the "Marks" there is the old cast iron boat anchor candidate called a Model 10 or 10ER. Ignore the boat anchor part, it is not deserved. The Alpha model from whence it all sprang.

JPG

kdockan wroteWell, I am the lucky sucker who bought the Mark VII. I really should have done more research on this. I did not realize that it was that old. It has some kind of problem with the switch and the vacuum did not come with it. Can I still get a replacement switch and belts for this thing?

Nix on the switch, but it may be repairable. In any event common switches can be made to work.

Belts are a problem. The original 13 rib belt is not, but the 9 rib Mark 5/V belt will work. The motor belt is somewhat a problem.

http://www.shopsmith.com/ss_forum/viewtopic.php?t=13906 First posts are disconcerting, skip to the later ones.

For more complete info:

http://www.shopsmith.com/ss_forum/viewtopic.php?t=11373

http://www.shopsmith.com/ss_forum/viewtopic.php?t=11984

The important thing at this point is: what is the condition of the speed control cam, and the gear rack on the back of the front way tube.

Also what other parts came with it?

When I posted to go get it, I meant that for ERLOVER. I do hope I did not cause you to jump in prematurely. In any event it is all restoreable to running condition. Just recently a forum member created the plastic parts with a 3d printer. They look very good to me. I got em! They have been a previous gotcha.

ERLover

When I posted to go get it, I meant that for ERLOVER.

JPG, I have every thing I want at this time, as far as SS stuff.

oldiron

JPG wrote
skou wrote
JPG wroteGetting nit picky this time!!!

There be Mark 5s

There be Mark 2s. That make ya feel better?

There be Mark VIIs

There be Mark Vs

There be Mark 7s

Listed in vintage order.

The mark Vs come in three OEM versions 505(early and later), 510, 520.

And yes that Madison CL is a Mark VII with an interesting front cover modification. BTW it is tagged as both a Mark VII and a Mark 7( even 'Magna' could not get it straight! :D ).]!

GO GET IT!!!!! ASAP!!!!! :) Missing some stuff.
Forgot a couple.

Which is surprising, because you HAVE one of them. :D

steve
And in addition to the "Marks" there is the old cast iron boat anchor candidate called a Model 10 or 10ER. Ignore the boat anchor part, it is not deserved. The Alpha model from whence it all sprang.

Thank goodness someone has cleared this up. Only problem is, Not enough people will see it... It's amazing at how confused some folks can become with something which is so simple!!!!!!!!!

A "5" is a "V", A "7" is a "VII"... The "2" seems to be the only bandit which doesn't enjoy the same confusion.

Mike

sreilly24590

So actually talking to someone about these you would say I have a "V-I_I" to avoid being confused with a 7? Seems they brought this on themselves. Guess if I need to have a conversation I'll pretend to be deaf and just pass a note ;)

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