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JPG wrote
ryanbp01 wrote . . . I am unable to figure out how the power cord is/was connected from the motor to the headstock and to and to the outlet. . . .

BPR
Outlet?????

Allow me to help expand your knowledge of American English. Perhaps going forward you could use a dictionary and become more independent as your knowledge grows:

outlet [ out-let, -lit ]

Electricity.

a point on a wiring system at which current is taken to supply electric devices.

Also called outlet box. the metal box or receptacle designed to facilitate connections to a wiring system.

JPG

Power cord wiring is not 'connected' to an outlet, but rather is usually plugged into the outlet. The power cord wiring includes the plug which plugs into the outlet. FWIW what we typically refer to as an outlet is more specifically a receptacle.

ryanbp01

I meant to say plug in the previous post. My son checked out the motor and it's good. Anyway, I'm in the process of cleaning up the headstock and other cast iron parts to prepare them for painting. Here ismy next question: since I am sticking with keeping the color as close to the original, is there a color in the Rustoleum line which would be a good match? I think there is a thread which discusses this but I couldn't find it.

BPR

chapmanruss

For painting the Model 10's I use Rustoleum Charcoal Gray. It is a gloss finish paint but I prefer to put a Matte Finish Clear Coat over it. The clear coat gives the finish a little extra protection. This makes them very close to the original color and finish. That is the paint finish on 10E S/N 1077 shown below.

I'm glad to here the motor is good. These old motors do seem to last forever or close to it. I have yet to get a bad motor with any of the 22 Model 10's and motors I have purchased. The most they have needed is a good cleaning, new power cord and a few I replaced the bearings. I do replace the power cords since after around 70 years they end up brittle and unsafe. Of course I painted them too. Some I have painted the same gray as the rest of the Shopsmith and others I have painted a Rustoleum Hammered Finish Silver.

1077 on bench r.jpg

ryanbp01

What is the best practice for cleaning the main table before applying wax since it appears to be cast iron? In addition, I want get rid of what appears to be black stains in the miter slots.

BPR

ryanbp01

I need to make a correction. I think the table is made of aluminum since a magnet would not stick to it.

BPR

robinson46176

This page might apply:

https://medium.com/@Barry.Davret/how-to-reveal-your-expertise-without-sounding-like-a-pompous-ass-cb5e9c2a1d3a

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chapmanruss

The table is aluminum. I use a wire wheel for "cleaning" up most of the parts on my restorations, even the tables. Remember it is over 70 years old so it is not likely to come out looking brand new but can look very good if there aren't drill holes or deep scrapes in it. Avoid sanding it as that will remove material from the surface and can cause uneven spots trying to remove deep stains. Scouring pads can also be helpful in "cleaning" the table and parts. The main idea is to get the "gunk" off the surface without removing the base material. If there are "dings" in spots they may need to be filed down. I find these in places where set screw's contact and make removal/reassembly difficult but can be found elsewhere. A common one is on the Lathe Tool Rest shaft that goes into the arm.

ryanbp01

Russ,

Thank you very much. As far as other posts from Farmer and others, I don't mean to come off as a "pompous ass", it's just that I wish to learn from others who have undertaken such projects in the past.

BPR

rpd

On the Facebook group some have reported using a random orbit sander with fine paper.

Haven't tried that myself. I just rubbed mine down with a Mr. Clean Magic Eraser. (warning. don't use it dry. makes a lot of fine dust :eek: ) I wasn't looking for shiny, It lightened it up a few shades and took the dirt out of the scratches, I was happy with that. :)

jsburger

I know this is probably not an option for you, but I have a Harbor Freight :eek: blast cabinet. That is what I use to clean everything. Well not everything. Not the way tubes, table tubes, quill, etc..I use a very fine glass media on everything else. I don't know the grit off the top of my head. It leaves a bit of a mat finish on aluminum. I then use Dico Nyalox abrasive wheels and aluminum polish if needed.

https://dicoproducts.com/products.php?gid=5

robinson46176

ryanbp01 wroteRuss,

Thank you very much. As far as other posts from Farmer and others, I don't mean to come off as a "pompous ass", it's just that I wish to learn from others who have undertaken such projects in the past.

BPR

BPR: Sorry for any confusion, my post was not directed at you at all. I do follow your postings with interest.

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ryanbp01

Thanks, Farmer, I really appreciate it.

BPR

robinson46176

Without a doubt this thread has some of the most absolutely beautiful 10 series Shopsmiths I have ever seen. :eek: :)

Kind of inspires me to want to go downstairs and start on my humble 10-ER. It's a decent machine but a million miles away from those seen here.

Sadly my energy needs to be applied to other more demanding projects right now and my 10-ER will have to sit in its corner covered with dust. I can't even get to it to take a picture of it. My plan is for it to become my primary lathe due to it being so heavy. It's on wheels like everything else in my shop except the main bench. I really do need to take about 15 minutes to dig it out and move it to a better spot where I can use it. It does run well. Maybe if I do that I will come up with a few simple turning projects for it. I would like it near my outside door which is my only source of natural light (basement shop). I keep eyeing a section of wall just to the left of the door where the wall is exposed on the outside and I could add a small window for light and a place to look out occasionally.

I live in hope. :)

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robinson46176

robinson46176 wrote
Without a doubt this thread has some of the most absolutely beautiful 10 series Shopsmiths I have ever seen. :eek: 🙂

Kind of inspires me to want to go downstairs and start on my humble 10-ER. It's a decent machine but a million miles away from those seen here.

Sadly my energy needs to be applied to other more demanding projects right now and my 10-ER will have to sit in its corner covered with dust. I can't even get to it to take a picture of it. My plan is for it to become my primary lathe due to it being so heavy. It's on wheels like everything else in my shop except the main bench. I really do need to take about 15 minutes to dig it out and move it to a better spot where I can use it. It does run well. Maybe if I do that I will come up with a few simple turning projects for it. I would like it near my outside door which is my only source of natural light (basement shop). I keep eyeing a section of wall just to the left of the door where the wall is exposed on the outside and I could add a small window for light and a place to look out occasionally.

I live in hope. 🙂

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A tiny bit of progress...

I went downstairs and moved some "stuff" from in front of the 10-ER and rolled it out of its resting place. It's still plenty dusty but I blew it off while using a brush on it and it looks nearly civilized. :rolleyes:

I won't start a restore on it but I will scrub it down some and do the lube and wax bit. The belt is pretty stiff so I'll just pick up a new one and hang the old one on a hook "just in case".

See... Inspiration. 🙂

My 1951 Shopsmith 10-ER.jpg

jsburger

robinson46176 wrote
robinson46176 wroteWithout a doubt this thread has some of the most absolutely beautiful 10 series Shopsmiths I have ever seen. :eek: :)

Kind of inspires me to want to go downstairs and start on my humble 10-ER. It's a decent machine but a million miles away from those seen here.

Sadly my energy needs to be applied to other more demanding projects right now and my 10-ER will have to sit in its corner covered with dust. I can't even get to it to take a picture of it. My plan is for it to become my primary lathe due to it being so heavy. It's on wheels like everything else in my shop except the main bench. I really do need to take about 15 minutes to dig it out and move it to a better spot where I can use it. It does run well. Maybe if I do that I will come up with a few simple turning projects for it. I would like it near my outside door which is my only source of natural light (basement shop). I keep eyeing a section of wall just to the left of the door where the wall is exposed on the outside and I could add a small window for light and a place to look out occasionally.

I live in hope. :)

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A tiny bit of progress...

I went downstairs and moved some "stuff" from in front of the 10-ER and rolled it out of its resting place. It's still plenty dusty but I blew it off while using a brush on it and it looks nearly civilized. :rolleyes:

I won't start a restore on it but I will scrub it down some and do the lube and wax bit. The belt is pretty stiff so I'll just pick up a new one and hang the old one on a hook "just in case".

See... Inspiration. :)

My 1951 Shopsmith 10-ER.jpg

That is a nice looking Model 10! :D

robinson46176

I was looking at my 10-ER this morning and its giblets and realized that the lathe tool rest was missing. An older style tool rest was laying on the bench shelf (the one with the big threads) but not the 10-ER rest. I must have put the original in a box or bucket back when I first moved the woodshop to the basement. It may take me until Thanksgiving to find it. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

The danged shop elves may have moved it one night.

A quick look around came up empty, but then again I have been known to misplace a tractor or a pickup truck so this may get a little complicated. I may be ahead to just buy another one...

One of the first pictures I posted of this basement shop space was when I was building a 4' high wall with clear vinyl above it to split off space. I later ended up taking most of it out and I am going to remove the last 5' section maybe tonight.

If anybody runs across my 10-ER lathe tool rest let me know. :rolleyes: :)

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jsburger

robinson46176 wroteI was looking at my 10-ER this morning and its giblets and realized that the lathe tool rest was missing. An older style tool rest was laying on the bench shelf (the one with the big threads) but not the 10-ER rest. I must have put the original in a box or bucket back when I first moved the woodshop to the basement. It may take me until Thanksgiving to find it. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

The danged shop elves may have moved it one night.

A quick look around came up empty, but then again I have been known to misplace a tractor or a pickup truck so this may get a little complicated. I may be ahead to just buy another one...

One of the first pictures I posted of this basement shop space was when I was building a 4' high wall with clear vinyl above it to split off space. I later ended up taking most of it out and I am going to remove the last 5' section maybe tonight.

If anybody runs across my 10-ER lathe tool rest let me know. :rolleyes: :)

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chapmanruss

farmer,

Glad you were able to get the 10ER out of the corner and be ready for use again. I noticed something interesting in the picture. The bench boards have been remounted under the top of the metal bench ends instead of being over top of them. Was this done for a specific reason?

Sorry I have not seen that wandering Lathe Tool Rest.

John,

Looking at your 10ER makes me want to go get a blasting cabinet. I've tried Harbor Freight's Blasting Gun and Pressurized Abrasive Blaster using fine crushed walnut shells but have to fight with them to much because they clog up frequently. But at this point I have almost all the parts cleaned for my current restoration and one more left to do after that. I may stop restoring Model 10's at least for a while. Time to work on some other projects like other Shopsmith tools and making sawdust.

robinson46176

chapmanruss wrotefarmer,

I noticed something interesting in the picture. The bench boards have been remounted under the top of the metal bench ends instead of being over top of them. Was this done for a specific reason?

The guy I got it from was not very tall and I assume that was the most simple way to make it lower. I have no idea if he was the original owner. I'm not all that tall (5' 10") but I will move it on top and may well add about a 1.5" block under each end between the metal ends and the top. I'll settle on a height as I go. As my semi-dedicated lathe I don't want to be working leaning over, well, my back doesn't want to be leaning over.

I also want to add a shelf or maybe even a drawer or two under the top. I just need to keep room available to operate the casters.

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