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Refurbishing a MkV 510

John4337

Here's the outfeed table after the Evaporust bath and some metal polish. There is some minor pitting at the end, I don't think it will be an issue.

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John4337

Finally all the parts arrived and I can start putting it back together.

Upper shaft reinstallation

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Found a 36mm Ford axle nut socket works great to seat the spring clip

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John4337

Idler is in, how's it look

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John4337

Speed control in. Here's s quick video. Not sure about the noise, did I forget to lubricate something?

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DLB

John4337 wrote Speed control in. Here's s quick video. Not sure about the noise, did I forget to lubricate something?

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Guessing here - Maybe that's the button sliding along the face piece on the new pork chop (aka speed control quadrant.(?) Is it quieter going the other direction? I don't lubricate that face but JPW would not hurt it and might confirm the source of the sound. That face usually has a shiny wear line on it after some use, and I know it starts out a little rough. The most important thing is that the control sheave slides smoothly and easily on the shaft. I see you did the Bill Mayo improvement, good one. ;)

I noticed that you put the upper drive in before putting the Drive and Ring on it. Did you have any trouble doing it in that order? I'm wondering about leverage to seat the Ring.

- David

Majones1

Did you put graphite on the worm gear? I also put a little on the speed control gear.

John4337

Thanks all, traced it to the flat spring under the speed handle, guess it was rubbing on the back of the handle. I put some wax on it and it got better. Probably couldn't hear it with the motor running anyway

John4337

Well, done, and surprisingly, no leftover parts.

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John4337

DLB wrote
John4337 wrote Speed control in. Here's s quick video. Not sure about the noise, did I forget to lubricate something?

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I noticed that you put the upper drive in before putting the Drive and Ring on it. Did you have any trouble doing it in that order? I'm wondering about leverage to seat the Ring.

- David

David, I just went in the order of the items on the forum, probably beginners luck, but I didn’t have any trouble getting things in.

Majones1

John4337 wrote Thanks all, traced it to the flat spring under the speed handle, guess it was rubbing on the back of the handle. I put some wax on it and it got better. Probably couldn't hear it with the motor running anyway

My speed control was very difficult to turn after I lubed and put everything back together, so I decided to wax the back of that handle plate, and it made it much easier to turn. The only problem was that when I got the speed up to R the speed control continued to turn and accelerate on its own. I had to remove the wax.

John4337

Majones1 wrote
John4337 wrote Thanks all, traced it to the flat spring under the speed handle, guess it was rubbing on the back of the handle. I put some wax on it and it got better. Probably couldn't hear it with the motor running anyway
My speed control was very difficult to turn after I lubed and put everything back together, so I decided to wax the back of that handle plate, and it made it much easier to turn. The only problem was that when I got the speed up to R the speed control continued to turn and accelerate on its own. I had to remove the wax.

Thanks, I’ll watch for that.

John4337

Well, it runs....

JPG

Speed response seems a bit sporadic?

All that noise is typical.

Range appears restricted, did you do a high speed adjustment?(sets max fast)(sheave travel limits slow speed 'min")

John4337

JPG wrote Speed response seems a bit sporadic?

All that noise is typical.

Range appears restricted, did you do a high speed adjustment?(sets max fast)(sheave travel limits slow speed 'min")

I haven't done any adjustments, just got it back on the tubes and was happy it ran. I'm looking on the forum now for adjustment procedures

JPG

Starts at about 9 min in.

http://www.shopsmithacademy.com/SS_Archives/SS117/SS117_Replacing_Speed_Changer.htm

Take the nut/screw flush comment with a grain of salt! Nuts thickness etc. have varied over the years.

John4337

JPG wrote Starts at about 9 min in.

http://www.shopsmithacademy.com/SS_Archives/SS117/SS117_Replacing_Speed_Changer.htm

Take the nut/screw flush comment with a grain of salt! Nuts thickness etc. have varied over the years.

Thanks very much!!

DLB

John4337 wrote Well, it runs....

Excellent! Do be careful about exceeding max speed of attachments. IIRC the sanding disc max is ~ 2000 RPM.

- David

JPG

The steel disk inertia may be responsible for the sporadic response.

John4337

It continues to go back together. I've run into an issue with the fence, its hanging in the same spot to the right of the blade opening. I thought it might be the tube, so I swapped them front to back, but it still hangs. Its not hitting the table, so I'm stumped. I've linked a short video of the problem.

Any thoughts are appreciated.

JPG

It appears to be hanging up near/over the miter gauge slot.

For starters, I would back out that confounded fence biasing screw until the inner end is flush. It appears in the upper left part of the 'head' in your second pix.

I noted it bound more when you first pushed it towards the blade slot. Pushing that direction causes the fence 'head' leading end to cock towards the tube.

The tubes may have greater c-c spacing at the hang point but that would imply insufficient rear clamp clearance.

I really think that setscrew is de culprit.

P.S. Another look revealed scratch marks on the head casting on opposite sides of the setscrew. The screw may have scored the tube when sliding off the end. Look for a burr on the ends of both tubes.

BTW glad that setscrew IS a flat point as it should be.

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