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A 10ER with speed changer/Not close to Home

GetterDone

JPG wrote It says (copyright symbol) 1953 Magna Engineering Corporation. A currently non-existent entity(IIUC).

I think if I leave that part off I will be Okay. :)

Real1shepperd

JPG wrote It says (copyright symbol) 1953 Magna Engineering Corporation. A currently non-existent entity(IIUC).

Yeah, but in the legalese of selling companies, a lot of that stuff like trademarks/copyrights moves along to the next owner(s). Like I said, I think it would be a bad idea to alert present-day Shopsmith of the proposed printing.

Kevin

chapmanruss

The attached PDF is for printing a replica of the wheel chart of the speeds. Print page one and two back-to-back aligning the green dots. That is the inner wheel. Page three is both outside wheels. Use heavy stock paper like card stock. I haven't made one myself but had this PDF from someone.

An Eyelet Kit can then be used to put it together. Do NOT make the Eyelet to tight as you want the three wheels to turn.

10ER SPEED SELECTOR WHEEL DIAGRAM.pdf

Real1shepperd

GetterDone wrote
JPG wrote It says (copyright symbol) 1953 Magna Engineering Corporation. A currently non-existent entity(IIUC).
I think if I leave that part off I will be Okay. :)

If it helps, I would be happy to remove my grommet and send you the two parts for printing. There's a small margin line that was faded and so I filled that in(badly) with a Sharpie, but I think a good printer in laying that out could redo that.

Kevin

GetterDone

chapmanruss wrote The attached PDF is for printing a replica of the wheel chart of the speeds. Print page one and two back-to-back aligning the green dots. That is the inner wheel. Page three is both outside wheels. Use heavy stock paper like card stock. I haven't made one myself but had this PDF from someone.

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10ER SPEED SELECTOR WHEEL DIAGRAM.pdf

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An Eyelet Kit can then be used to put it together. Do NOT make the Eyelet to tight as you want the three wheels to turn.

Cool :cool:

Thanks Russ

Problem solved.

I didn't know someone had already done a Copy. :D

Yeah

Thanks for reminding me of the Rivet. :)

GetterDone

Real1shepperd wrote If it helps, I would be happy to remove my grommet and send you the two parts for printing. There's a small margin line that was faded and so I filled that in(badly) with a Sharpie, but I think a good printer in laying that out could redo that.

Kevin

If she will Print them,

I think she may be able to do it with the PDF Russ just posted.

Thanks for the Offer. :)

Real1shepperd

There are a lot of the old Magna Manuals/Documents available or reproduced and found through this Shopsmith Forum Site. So far I do not know of any issues Shopsmith has had with that. Many of the Shopsmith manuals and instructions are available now for free as PDF's here on the Shopsmith Website.

Russ,

That generally falls under 'educational' purview and is usually permissible. When you start talking about professional printing and resale, that usually draws the ire of the company in question. As old as Shopsmith is, they could be completely OK with this....I dunno their policy.

Kevin

Real1shepperd

GetterDone wrote

If she will Print them,

I think she may be able to do it with the PDF Russ just posted.

Thanks for the Offer. :)

OK. Make sure she understands to print these on heavy cardboard stock like the originals. It would be nice if all the colors and printing were like the originals.

I would buy three or four.

Kevin

GetterDone

Real1shepperd wrote

OK. Make sure she understands to print these on heavy cardboard stock like the originals. It would be nice if all the colors and printing were like the originals.

I would buy three or four.

Kevin

She can do the color printing for sure.

I will see what she has available for the type of cardboard stock.

JPG

See if she can make them more durable after printing by somehow applying something. My first idea was to spray shellac them, but that might dissolve the ink. Clear adhesive sided sheets come to mind.

GetterDone

JPG wrote See if she can make them more durable after printing by somehow applying something. My first idea was to spray shellac them, but that might dissolve the ink. Clear adhesive sided sheets come to mind.

Good Idea. :)

She does a lot of different types of Signs and stuff.

She probably will have something that will fit that description.

Real1shepperd

It would be REALLY slick if the ea disc could each be laminated. But that may be a pipe dream......

Kevin

GetterDone

Real1shepperd wrote It would be REALLY slick if each disc could each be laminated. But that may be a pipe dream......

Kevin

I contacted a print place closer to my workplace.

I am going to let them look at it Tomorrow.

She said they print on sheet paper (Of Course) :rolleyes: and Card Stock.

Lamination is a Great idea.

I will Write all these idea's down and see where I can take this. :)

I have done similar stuff with Truck Projects.

So, this type of stuff is not New to me.

The first issue is making them Round.

The second issue is the cutout's.

I have got Idea's. ;)

Real1shepperd

GetterDone wrote

I contacted a print place closer to my workplace.

I am going to let them look at it Tomorrow.

She said they print on sheet paper (Of Course) :rolleyes: and Card Stock.

Lamination is a Great idea.

I will Write all these idea's down and see where I can take this. :)

I have done similar stuff with Truck Projects.

So, this type of stuff is not New to me.

The first issue is making them Round.

The second issue is the cutout's.

I have got Idea's. ;)

Thanks for doing this!

Kevin

GetterDone

Your welcome Kevin.

I finally got my home printer online and working again. :eek:

Now I am armed with the original chart and paper copies of the PDF that Russ provided.

I found this kit for grommets in the link below.

I will research further before I buy some,

Link: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08QJC54S8/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A121EIIKZG4K1&th=1

I am thinking of leaving the middle of the chart (Square) and of course the rotating dials on either side will have to be a Circle. :D

Now I think I will have to make a Punch/Stamping Die for the openings. :rolleyes: :) :D :eek:

That's not a big issue, Just the time to Machine it and test the Dimensions. :)

chapmanruss

Print on the heaviest stock your printer can handle. If I were making one, I would use an x-acto knife or similar to cut out the holes. Lower tech than punches but a simpler solution.

GetterDone

chapmanruss wrote Print on the heaviest stock your printer can handle. If I were making one, I would use an x-acto knife or similar to cut out the holes. Lower tech than punches but a simpler solution.

Thanks Russ

I was debating on making a punch. :rolleyes:

I have an Exacto Knife. :D

I think I will have time to stop at the print shop this Evening.

I hope they got thick Card stock. :)

GetterDone

I stopped by the Print place.

They had business card stock and to laminate it was going to cost :eek:

As soon as I explained the reason for the Lamination, They said what about this type of material?

I said That will work. :D

It is a slick type of material that will hold up in the outdoor weather.

They said one customer use it to label and tag outdoor stuff and did not fade.

It springs back when you pull it back 90% and let go of it, unlike their business card they gave me that is made from card stock.

They also gave me a Card made of this stuff also.

So now I have to go hunt my Exacto Knife. :rolleyes:

They said within a week or so, they can get one made and let me look at it.

Real1shepperd

Very cool! Sounds like a lot of progress. Don't need to laminate if the card stock is durable enough I should think.

Any decent quality rotating head hole punch(not the imported crap) as they use for leather should work great on a thicker stock material. The hole needs to be sized for the eye grommet. If you need a bigger hole, you can buy an individual punch. I have those too and I keep them razor-sharp with a stone.

Kevin

GetterDone

I ordered a Holstersmith punch.

They have made in the USA products.

Hopefully their punch is. :rolleyes:

I'll see soon. :D

If it's not sharp enough I will cheat and ask our Toolmaker at work to sharpen it. ;)

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