Seek replacement AO Smith motor for Mark V 120v 1 1/8Hp

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Seek replacement AO Smith motor for Mark V 120v 1 1/8Hp

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Hello All,

Can anyone direct me to a used AO Smith motor in good working order?
It is for a Mark V. It is 12q0v 60cy and 1 and 1/8 Hp.

I understand Emerson and General Electric also make a motor for the Mark V.

Ed Weitz
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Re: Seek replacement AO Smith motor

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That my friend appears to be a unicorn. I have been keeping an eye on ebay and craigslist but haven't seen a single one yet. Take it apart and see if it is something you can fix yourself. It could just be the capacitor, or like in my case it was the switch. My motor winding leads were terribly corroded, but I was able to cut them back, replace the wires, and cover them with shrink tubing.

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edweitz wrote: Fri Jun 04, 2021 8:46 am Can anyone direct me to a used AO Smith motor in good working order?
What does it go in to? And if it is a Mark 5/V is it 3/4 HP or 1-1/8 HP? I think the one Mike refers to as a Unicorn is the Mark VII version, those are pretty hard to come by. But if you are looking for a Mark 5/V motor there are several options.

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DLB wrote: Fri Jun 04, 2021 4:00 pm I think the one Mike refers to as a Unicorn is the Mark VII version, those are pretty hard to come by.
Good point, I guess I should have asked him that. I was referring to the MarkVII, C48L2A10, 1 1/8 HP Unicorn specifically. Sorry 'bout that :)
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Re: Seek replacement AO Smith motor

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Ed,

First off welcome to the Shopsmith Forum. David asked a good question but not a broad enough one. What model tool are you looking for this A. O. Smith motor for? Do you have a Shopsmith Model 10E or 10ER? Is it for a Mark 5 or even something else? What type of tool you need it for will help in us guiding you to find a replacement and most applications can use a different brand giving you more options.
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Re: Seek replacement AO Smith motor 1 1/8 HP 120V 60cy Mark V

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DLB wrote: Fri Jun 04, 2021 4:00 pm
edweitz wrote: Fri Jun 04, 2021 8:46 am Can anyone direct me to a used AO Smith motor in good working order?
What does it go in to? And if it is a Mark 5/V is it 3/4 HP or 1-1/8 HP? I think the one Mike refers to as a Unicorn is the Mark VII version, those are pretty hard to come by. But if you are looking for a Mark 5/V motor there are several options.

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Re: Seek replacement AO Smith motor 1 1/8 HP 120v 60cy Mark V

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miken wrote: Fri Jun 04, 2021 4:35 pm
DLB wrote: Fri Jun 04, 2021 4:00 pm I think the one Mike refers to as a Unicorn is the Mark VII version, those are pretty hard to come by.
Good point, I guess I should have asked him that. I was referring to the MarkVII, C48L2A10, 1 1/8 HP Unicorn specifically. Sorry 'bout that :)
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Re: Seek replacement AO Smith motor

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Thank you for your responses. I seek a motor for a MArk V it has an A O Smith 1 1/8 Hp 120v 60cy that currently mwkes no sound when power applied. Switch seems OK. I'm shy about going to Grainger due to required longer shaft for sheeves.
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Re: Seek replacement AO Smith motor

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edweitz wrote: Mon Jun 07, 2021 6:15 pm Thank you for your responses. I seek a motor for a MArk V it has an A O Smith 1 1/8 Hp 120v 60cy that currently mwkes no sound when power applied. Switch seems OK. I'm shy about going to Grainger due to required longer shaft for sheeves.
Not only the longer shaft but the proprietary motor mount. They are only available from SS or used. They show up all the time on eBay.
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edweitz wrote: Mon Jun 07, 2021 6:15 pm Thank you for your responses. I seek a motor for a MArk V it has an A O Smith 1 1/8 Hp 120v 60cy that currently mwkes no sound when power applied. Switch seems OK. I'm shy about going to Grainger due to required longer shaft for sheeves.
For the Mark V you are not locked in to the AO Smith. You can use any brand but make sure you get 1-1/8HP unless you know you are okay with less. From observation it appears to me that SS has been using Emerson for a long time. The only variation I've seen in the motors are some differences in how they are wired externally, mostly whether neutral (white wire) goes to the power switch or not. But this is easily changed from either version to either version. As John said these motors are frequently available used on ebay (but watch out for the 3/4HP versions) or are available new from SS.

IIWM I'd remove the motor and take it to a local electric motor shop for an eval first unless you are comfortable with your diagnosis. The shops in my area don't charge anything just to see if it runs. They may charge for determining why it doesn't run.

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