505644 Jig Saw blades
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505644 Jig Saw blades
Hi guys, I bought a used 505644 jig saw and was looking for a recommendation on some aftermarket blades. Yes, i have become a full-on Shopsmith SPT addict. Can't stop myself from buying stuff I probably don't need. Preaching to the choir on this forum i suppose. I was warned.
I asked if the puffer works and he said it does, but doesn't put out much air. Is that normal?
Any advise on things to look at when I receive it. I know about making sure it has oil in it, and I will need too add that as he removed the oil for shipping. What type of oil is best.
I plan to search for a manual, but really prefer the advice and experience of this forum.
Thanks, Mike
I asked if the puffer works and he said it does, but doesn't put out much air. Is that normal?
Any advise on things to look at when I receive it. I know about making sure it has oil in it, and I will need too add that as he removed the oil for shipping. What type of oil is best.
I plan to search for a manual, but really prefer the advice and experience of this forum.
Thanks, Mike
Last edited by miken on Sun Jun 20, 2021 9:53 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Re: 504644 Jig Saw blades
#10 machine oil/air compressor oil.
"Puffer" is weak - some oil on the leather piston seal will help.
"Puffer" is weak - some oil on the leather piston seal will help.
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Re: 504644 Jig Saw blades
Thanks JPG, it has a Shopsmith badge instead of the Magna M. Any differences aside from the branding?
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Re: 504644 Jig Saw blades
No. Magna = Shopsmith. Shopsmith = Magna. The original Shopsmith from 1947 was made by Magna Engineering. There have been minor changes over the years but they are the same machine.
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Re: 505644 Jig Saw blades
Scott Markwood's last four videos are on the jigsaw. In the first one, I believe he says to use pinless scrollsaw blades.
https://www.youtube.com/c/MyGrowthRings/videos
Mike
https://www.youtube.com/c/MyGrowthRings/videos
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Re: 505644 Jig Saw blades
Or pinned ones with the pins removed.
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Re: 505644 Jig Saw blades
Shopsmith has some suggestions for blades. They are likely commonly available at your local stores.
https://www.shopsmith.com/mediawiki/index.php/Jigsaw
https://www.shopsmith.com/mediawiki/index.php/Jigsaw
Re: 505644 Jig Saw blades
Thanks, interesting Shopsmith recommends Marvel Mystery Oil on that link site. I thought that was a detergent and generally frowned upon.garys wrote: ↑Mon Jun 21, 2021 10:03 am Shopsmith has some suggestions for blades. They are likely commonly available at your local stores.
https://www.shopsmith.com/mediawiki/index.php/Jigsaw
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Re: 505644 Jig Saw blades
Mike,
John already said it but here is a little more information. The Jig Saw Model 610 (later 505644) came out in 1954 after the Mark 5. As with all the Add-a-Tools (Later referred to as SPT's) they were Magna tools not Shopsmith and had the M logo on the main housing cover. Shopsmith was the name given to the first 5 in 1 tools the Shopsmith Model 10E/10ER followed later By the Shopsmith Mark 5 in 1954. After Shopsmith Inc. formed in 1972 and brought back the Mark 5 and the SPT's all tools were Shopsmith but it was several years before the SPT's all had the Shopsmith Logo on them. Early Jig Saws were painted to match the Mark 5 of the time periods starting with Greenies then Goldies followed by gray. Very little changed over the years for the Jig Saw. The logo on the cover plate, going from straight mounting posts to eccentric ones and a late change to the table tilt lock using an Allen Cap Screw and washer.
As for blades it has already been said almost any straight end will work just avoid reverse tooth blades which cut in both the up and down strokes. They are good for use on the Scroll Saw but not the Jig Saw.
John already said it but here is a little more information. The Jig Saw Model 610 (later 505644) came out in 1954 after the Mark 5. As with all the Add-a-Tools (Later referred to as SPT's) they were Magna tools not Shopsmith and had the M logo on the main housing cover. Shopsmith was the name given to the first 5 in 1 tools the Shopsmith Model 10E/10ER followed later By the Shopsmith Mark 5 in 1954. After Shopsmith Inc. formed in 1972 and brought back the Mark 5 and the SPT's all tools were Shopsmith but it was several years before the SPT's all had the Shopsmith Logo on them. Early Jig Saws were painted to match the Mark 5 of the time periods starting with Greenies then Goldies followed by gray. Very little changed over the years for the Jig Saw. The logo on the cover plate, going from straight mounting posts to eccentric ones and a late change to the table tilt lock using an Allen Cap Screw and washer.
As for blades it has already been said almost any straight end will work just avoid reverse tooth blades which cut in both the up and down strokes. They are good for use on the Scroll Saw but not the Jig Saw.
Russ
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Mark V 520
All SPT's & 2 Power Stations
Model 10ER S/N R64000 first one I restored on bench w/ metal ends & retractable casters.
Has Speed Changer, 4E Jointer, Jig Saw with lamp, a complete set of original accessories & much more.
Model 10E's S/N's 1076 & 1077 oldest ones I have restored. Mark 2 S/N 85959 restored. Others to be restored.
Re: 505644 Jig Saw blades
Thanks for the info guys. I watched one of the my growth rings videos, and will watch the others (thanks Mike907). Russ, appreciate the history. I am hoping I got lucky and it's in good working condition like the belt sander I bought. I don't mind tearing it apart, cleaning, lubricating it, etc. but if parts are too worn or damaged, well buyer beware I guess.
Thanks again, Mike -
Thanks again, Mike -
ShopSmith Mark VII (406982), with Band Saw, Jig Saw, Belt Sander, and Jointer
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ShopSmith Mark VII (400457), (working backup or parts machine)
12" Craftsman Band Saw (113.243311)
12" Craftsman Powered Hacksaw (108.1501)
12" Atlas Commercial (3990) 12" Back Geared, Undermount, Screw Cutting Lathe with Quick Change Gear Box, Taper, Milling and Grinding Attachments
Atlas MFC Horizontal Milling Machine with Vertical Milling Attachment
Atlas 7B Metal Shaper