Scroll Saw - Blade Change Upgrade

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Scroll Saw - Blade Change Upgrade

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Just bought this green (not teal) scroll saw, powerhead mounted version. Runs great, went through and cleaned lubed everything. Original blade holders work fine but are a bit frustrating & slow to use.

Question: Can I just install 555708 upgraded holders directly on this saw leaving the existing metal hood feet/guards in place or is the 555706 with the extra items and rear tension cam a must-do?
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Re: Green Scroll Saw - Blade Change Upgrade

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"Green"?
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Re: Green Scroll Saw - Blade Change Upgrade

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JPG wrote:"Green"?
Hmmm,, okay I suppose its gray or grey ;)
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Re: Green Scroll Saw - Blade Change Upgrade

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I have a grey scroll saw that I upgraded the blade holder to the newer configuration. If the picture of the red headed scroll sawer is using your scroll saw then you'll need/want the full kit with the see through cover. The upgraded kit eliminated the rear blade support with a modern holder that is also quicker and easier to use. My used scroll saw didn't come with the blade setting gauge so the upgrade solved all the issues and made the saw work much better.

Here's what I took off and the kit I bought:
parts removed to install the upgrade kit
parts removed to install the upgrade kit
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Re: Green Scroll Saw - Blade Change Upgrade

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P89DC wrote:I have a grey scroll saw that I upgraded the blade holder to the newer configuration. If the picture of the red headed scroll sawer is using your scroll saw then you'll need/want the full kit with the see through cover. The upgraded kit eliminated the rear blade support with a modern holder that is also quicker and easier to use. My used scroll saw didn't come with the blade setting gauge so the upgrade solved all the issues and made the saw work much better.

Here's what I took off and the kit I bought:

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Thanks, I appreciate the feedback. I have sent a note to All-in-One to see if Greg can get me a price for 555706, or if it still available at all. I notice on the SS site the link doesn't work. I'm assuming the rear blade support is not well liked in a modern saw (due to heat, or general obstruction, or?)
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Re: Green Scroll Saw - Blade Change Upgrade

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Not having ever used a scroll saw previously, I thought it best to get the SS positioned where I am comfortable and I also made a DIY cyclone. Vacuum has a new Hepa filter, and to be honest the system is way better than what I expected. Shop looks messy, but its an organized mess. I'm calling it "Santa's Workshop" today :) He also brought me a new magnifier light so I can see better.

The need for a quicker way to change blades is becoming more obvious to me as I progress on this first project..
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THAT is one VERY ambitious project!
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Re: Green Scroll Saw - Blade Change Upgrade

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I went back and looked more closely and I think the full upgrade kit really isn't necessary. The new blade blocks are all you really need (555708). The new hold down design isn't better, it's just lower cost to manufacturer. I would remove the rear blade support and use the existing hold down. Then either cut the "Scroll Saw Arm Hood" down so that it doesn't interfere with the new blade blocks or order the new clear hood (518163). The "Scroll Saw Tension Lever" is very convenient compared to the knob and I might add that to my order (518127).

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The Scroll Saw Arm Hood comparison.  The old one needs to be cut back to aviod interfering with the blade block.
The Scroll Saw Arm Hood comparison. The old one needs to be cut back to aviod interfering with the blade block.
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Comparision of old and new hold downs.  New hold down is simpler but not better.
Comparision of old and new hold downs. New hold down is simpler but not better.
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The rear blade support can be removed in the old hold down by removing the grub screw.
The rear blade support can be removed in the old hold down by removing the grub screw.
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Re: Green Scroll Saw - Blade Change Upgrade

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P89DC wrote:I went back and looked more closely and I think the full upgrade kit really isn't necessary. The new blade blocks are all you really need (555708). The new hold down design isn't better, it's just lower cost to manufacturer. I would remove the rear blade support and use the existing hold down. Then either cut the "Scroll Saw Arm Hood" down so that it doesn't interfere with the new blade blocks or order the new clear hood (518163). The "Scroll Saw Tension Lever" is very convenient compared to the knob and I might add that to my order (518127).

Some pictures:
Fantastic, thanks for the info!

I may remove the rear blade support and cut back the air tube similar to the the shape of the air tube in the kit. Tried using the saw without the air, it is near impossible. Definitely need the air to remove the dust and clear the cutting path. It works great.
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Re: Green Scroll Saw - Blade Change Upgrade

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Very welcome! Re the air tube; looks as if you can cut it down and crimp the end and it'll be the same as the new version.
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