Serial Number 3068 - Model 10E

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Re: Serial Number 3068 - Model 10E

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Mberkeland wrote: Sun Jan 03, 2021 7:10 pm I know he did metal work as well as wood work. He built some cool furniture out of old local boat docks that were wrapped in steel.

From what I can tell, I have most of the parts, although a couple are broken. I’m going to see if a metal guy I know can repair them, or I will just keep an eye on eBay.
The lathe rest parts are readily available on eBay. As expected, you have the Jacobs 33B drill chuck with the SS adapter. They are pretty rare. Clean it up and take good care of it.
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Lots of good infomation on this forum , you can get lots of great tips. Oh and by the way in your picture with the arbors on the left top , is a plane (frog iron) There is a strip of thin medal missing on it . of corse without the plane its not much good , but put it in your odds and ends box...Also welcome.. DOWeaver indy :)
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Re: Serial Number 3068 - Model 10E

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It is too bad the Lathe Tool Rest (P/N 105-1) is broken as it is the original two piece version with the screw in post. It changed not long after yours was made. I had S/N 4708 which had the single cast piece Lathe Tool Rest. The broken Lathe tool rest arm (P/N 105-2) is the first of two versions but either one will work as will the more common later 8" Lathe Tool Rest (P/N 105-1) even the current one is useable. As you look for parts you will notice the numbers didn't change even though the parts (versions) did until all Model 10 part numbers changed November 1, 1951. Many sellers do not include the part numbers in their ads so check the pictures carefully.

I wouldn't recommend using the red angle iron bolted to the Lathe Tool Rest Arm again to avoid breaking another arm. Remember there are only so many parts available to replace broken ones since these Model 10's have not been made for 67 years now. Replacements for broken parts must come from other Model 10's so the number of complete working units is decreasing.

Other than the broken parts that need replacing for Lathe work the only other thing I don't see in the pictures is the Extension Table and its bracket plus hardware. For your 10E it would have the Wood Extension Table with the parts as shown below.
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This one is the early version board with wood screws holding the board to the top bar (P/N 109-4) of the bracket assembly from underneath. Later 10E Wood Extension Tables were held in place by flat head/counter sunk wood screws going through the wood to hold the parts (wood, top bar & Bracket) together.

If you need to replace the Extension Table Assembly consider getting a Metal Extension Table Assembly including the correct Tailstock and Fence with rear lock. They are more common and easier to use for cuts needing the fence on the extension table.
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Re: Serial Number 3068 - Model 10E

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Thank you for all the additional great info. It’s all really helpful. My buddy with a metal shop (he works on old hot rods) said he could fix the broken pieces if I can’t find replacements. I almost bought another complete 10e today that looks like it has some of my broken pieces. It was serial number 21898 so I’m not sure if the parts would match, although it sounds like they may.

Thanks for all the teaching. I’m looking forward to learning how to use this and make something.
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Re: Serial Number 3068 - Model 10E

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Also, I do have that extension piece.
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Essentially they would be interchangeable.(very few that ain't)

Interesting washer/nut stack. :eek:
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Re: Serial Number 3068 - Model 10E

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The bar for the Extension Table does not look like the original. Yours is longer, spanning the wood top farther. I agree with JPG's comment Interesting washer/nut stack. Not sure what that is for. Those holes hold the pins for the fence to attach as shown in the picture in my previous post. The wood table top measures 19-1/2" x 4-1/2". As described in my previous post there were two versions of the hole sizes. In the picture below is the two versions with the early one on the bottom and the later one on the top. Only the four larger holes in each of them are original. It is any ones guess what the other small holes were used for by previous owners in the later version but on the early version the countersunk holes were used to attach the bracket incorrectly making it un-useable for the fence. That's how I received it.
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I have made several replacement wood tops and prefer the later version.

Parts from serial number 21898 would fit your 10E. As I said before some parts can be replaced by later versions individually while others must be replaced as assemblies.

Do use caution as collecting Model 10's can become addictive.
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Mark V 520
All SPT's & 2 Power Stations
Model 10ER S/N R64000 first one I restored on bench w/ metal ends & retractable casters.
Has Speed Changer, 4E Jointer, Jig Saw with lamp, a complete set of original accessories & much more.
Model 10E's S/N's 1076 & 1077 oldest ones I have restored. Mark 2 S/N 85959 restored. Others to be restored.
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