- Ed in Tampa
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I am sure many will object to the video that is expected but toward the end he shows some interesting ideas on modifying the SS.
Go down the list one by one:
How well does that 8" disk sander work? Even if it's a 10" or 12" disk is it mounted on a quill?
That drill press you got, does you have to move a belt to change speed? Does it have a mortising attachment? Can you use it as a router/shaper?
Let's look at your horizontal boring machine, does it have... oh, what's that? You don't have one?
How about your lathe? Well, I don't have enough experience there to compare well, but I know you're getting up there price-wise for something of Shopsmith quality.
With any one of those other tools, can you attach a bandsaw, a joiner, a planer, a belt sander, a strip sander, scroll saw, or anything else at all? When you do the comparison from a Shopsmith perspective it will be the alternatives coming up short.
Mark V 510 with PowerPro headstock, Mark V Greenie with 510 headstock, Mark V 500 in progress
Sawsmith 2000 Ultra, 10ER in progress, 10ER undetermined future
Mark V 520 (Bought New '98) | 4" jointer | 6" beltsander | 12" planer | bandsaw | router table | speed reducer | univ. tool rest
Porter Cable 12" Compound Miter Saw | Rikon 8" Low Speed Bench Grinder w/CBN wheels | Jessem Clear-Cut TS™ Stock Guides
Festool (Emerald): DF 500 Q | RO 150 FEQ | OF 1400 EQ | TS 55 REQ | CT 26 E
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I agree with the sehast that there are many more than 1 percent of the woodworkers out there that have limited space so all individual tools are not an option. Beyond that there are people's budgets to consider. My shop space is part of my garage and I expand into the vehicle parking area to do work. I would have to have individual tool portable so they could each be moved into the parking area for any use. That increases the setup time for each individual tool being moved out and back for the next tool operation so no real time savings there vs. Shopsmith change overs.
I do agree that the table saw has limiting factors but my Shopsmith can be set up to handle larger cuts than my Craftsman 10" Table Saw that includes their upgraded fence/rail system. The Craftsman cannot make as wide a cut as a Shopsmith Mark 5 or Mark V 500 can and on my Mark V 520 or Mark 7 I can add infeed and/or out feed tables to handle larger materials. I only really keep the Craftsman Table Saw for making bevel cuts to avoid tilting the table on the Shopsmith for larger pieces.
He didn't have a lot to say about the other functions of the Shopsmith except the Drill Press maybe because he couldn't really find fault in them compared to individual tools. I do agree with the "Bear" that the Shopsmith is better as a Drill Press than most standalone ones. John's Drill Press setup is a great example of making one a dedicated Drill Press.
Finally I would find it amusing to see him mount a Mark Mount Planer on the Power Station as he says is one of the extra tools the Power Station was for. It all goes to show that anybody can say anything on the internet whether factual or not.
Mark V completely upgraded to Mark 7
Mark V 520
All SPT's & 2 Power Stations
Model 10ER S/N R64000 first one I restored on bench w/ metal ends & retractable casters.
Has Speed Changer, 4E Jointer, Jig Saw with lamp, a complete set of original accessories & much more.
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Goldie(Bought New SN 377425)/4" jointer/6" beltsander/12" planer/stripsander/bandsaw/powerstation /Scroll saw/Jig saw /Craftsman 10" ras/Craftsman 6" thicknessplaner/ Dayton10"tablesaw(restoredfromneighborstrashpile)/ Mark VII restoration in 'progress'/ 10E[/size](SN E3779) restoration in progress, a 510 on the back burner and a growing pile of items to be eventually returned to useful life. - aka Red Grange
Most of us on the forum "get" the Shopsmith and appreciate the things that the Shopsmith can do for us, whether it's the space-saving aspect, or some of the unique functions/features it has. So we put up with the aggravations (for me changeovers) and shortcomings (dust collection/outfeed table size) or design work-arounds for those shortcoming (multiple Shopsmiths, home built outfeeds, etc.). Other can't abide those shortcomings. To each their own.
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Now that may change in years with the economy the may it is.