SPEED INCREASER
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SPEED INCREASER
Wondering what your thoughts would be on purchasing a speed increaser. Routers are higher speeds and other than shaper what would they be beneficial in having. Have a used one for sale and not sure how much it would be worth buying etc. Your thoughts
Tom
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Re: SPEED INCREASER
I have wanted, and have been looking for, a speed increaser for a while now. It is an intriguing SPT that I would like to have. They seem expensive, can't use the full speed of the PowerPro, but they do use the table without the way tubes in the way, and is/was the reason I was interested. With all of that said, I think a router (even a cheap HF one) on a good table is probably a better setup. If you could buy a SI new from SS for a competitive price (compared to a router and table), I think I would do it in a heartbeat.
Blah blah, anyway, just my dos centavos.
Blah blah, anyway, just my dos centavos.
Dick
1965 Mark VII S/N 407684
1951 10 ER S/N ER 44570 -- Reborn 9/16/14
1950 10 ER S/N ER 33479 Reborn July 2016
1950 10 ER S/N ER 39671
1951 jigsaw X 2
1951 !0 ER #3 in rebuild
500, Jointer, Bsaw, Bsander, Planer
2014 Mark 7 W/Lift assist - 14 4" Jointer - DC3300
And a plethora of small stuff .....
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1965 Mark VII S/N 407684
1951 10 ER S/N ER 44570 -- Reborn 9/16/14
1950 10 ER S/N ER 33479 Reborn July 2016
1950 10 ER S/N ER 39671
1951 jigsaw X 2
1951 !0 ER #3 in rebuild
500, Jointer, Bsaw, Bsander, Planer
2014 Mark 7 W/Lift assist - 14 4" Jointer - DC3300
And a plethora of small stuff .....
"The trouble with quotes on the Internet is that you can never know if they are genuine." - Benjamin Franklin
Re: SPEED INCREASER
rjent wrote:I have wanted, and have been looking for, a speed increaser for a while now. It is an intriguing SPT that I would like to have. They seem expensive, can't use the full speed of the PowerPro, but they do use the table without the way tubes in the way, and is/was the reason I was interested. With all of that said, I think a router (even a cheap HF one) on a good table is probably a better setup. If you could buy a SI new from SS for a competitive price (compared to a router and table), I think I would do it in a heartbeat.
Blah blah, anyway, just my dos centavos.
It runs the MK V at 10,000RPM the same as the Power Pro.
John & Mary Burger
Eagle's Lair Woodshop
Hooper, UT
Eagle's Lair Woodshop
Hooper, UT
Re: SPEED INCREASER
I purchased a Speed Increaser about a year ago even though I had upgraded to a PowerPro to get a below the table capability because I didn't have a Double Tilt. It was a mistake. While it was moderately cheaper than Double Tilt it does not give you the full power you get if connected directly to the headstock. I upgraded to the Double Tilt earlier this year and am very happy. I still have the Speed Increaser pretty much new, maybe used it once or twice. Send me a PM if there is any interested in it.
Re: SPEED INCREASER
I too have a SI that I no longer use. PM for details
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Re: SPEED INCREASER
Yeah, but the PowerPro running at 10K is too fast an input speed for the SI but if the SI could handle the 10K input from the PP, it would get close to real router speed instead of being limited to 10K ...jsburger wrote:rjent wrote:I have wanted, and have been looking for, a speed increaser for a while now. It is an intriguing SPT that I would like to have. They seem expensive, can't use the full speed of the PowerPro, but they do use the table without the way tubes in the way, and is/was the reason I was interested. With all of that said, I think a router (even a cheap HF one) on a good table is probably a better setup. If you could buy a SI new from SS for a competitive price (compared to a router and table), I think I would do it in a heartbeat.
Blah blah, anyway, just my dos centavos.
It runs the MK V at 10,000RPM the same as the Power Pro.
Dick
1965 Mark VII S/N 407684
1951 10 ER S/N ER 44570 -- Reborn 9/16/14
1950 10 ER S/N ER 33479 Reborn July 2016
1950 10 ER S/N ER 39671
1951 jigsaw X 2
1951 !0 ER #3 in rebuild
500, Jointer, Bsaw, Bsander, Planer
2014 Mark 7 W/Lift assist - 14 4" Jointer - DC3300
And a plethora of small stuff .....
"The trouble with quotes on the Internet is that you can never know if they are genuine." - Benjamin Franklin
1965 Mark VII S/N 407684
1951 10 ER S/N ER 44570 -- Reborn 9/16/14
1950 10 ER S/N ER 33479 Reborn July 2016
1950 10 ER S/N ER 39671
1951 jigsaw X 2
1951 !0 ER #3 in rebuild
500, Jointer, Bsaw, Bsander, Planer
2014 Mark 7 W/Lift assist - 14 4" Jointer - DC3300
And a plethora of small stuff .....
"The trouble with quotes on the Internet is that you can never know if they are genuine." - Benjamin Franklin
Re: SPEED INCREASER
OK I guess. If you have the PP you don't need the speed increaser.rjent wrote:Yeah, but the PowerPro running at 10K is too fast an input speed for the SI but if the SI could handle the 10K input from the PP, it would get close to real router speed instead of being limited to 10K ...jsburger wrote:rjent wrote:I have wanted, and have been looking for, a speed increaser for a while now. It is an intriguing SPT that I would like to have. They seem expensive, can't use the full speed of the PowerPro, but they do use the table without the way tubes in the way, and is/was the reason I was interested. With all of that said, I think a router (even a cheap HF one) on a good table is probably a better setup. If you could buy a SI new from SS for a competitive price (compared to a router and table), I think I would do it in a heartbeat.
Blah blah, anyway, just my dos centavos.
It runs the MK V at 10,000RPM the same as the Power Pro.
John & Mary Burger
Eagle's Lair Woodshop
Hooper, UT
Eagle's Lair Woodshop
Hooper, UT
Re: SPEED INCREASER
The speed increaser gives you the same under table shaping that the Power Pro does without the expense of the Power Pro. Shaper cutters work fine at 10,000RPM. So do most "Router" bits. I keep my PC 7518 motor on my router table at 13,000 or 16,000 most of the time. It goes up to 21,000RPM but I have never used it at that speed.
John & Mary Burger
Eagle's Lair Woodshop
Hooper, UT
Eagle's Lair Woodshop
Hooper, UT
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Re: SPEED INCREASER
But John, it also gets the way tubes in the way. The speed increaser changes the PP to the horizontal position allowing a true under table router because of it. Yes, the under table routing on the PP is awesome and I use it all the time, but I am just saying that it would be nice to see 20K or so speeds because of the SI without the tubes in the way. If I am going to pay 300 dollars or so, I think it would be better money spend buying a router and building a table.jsburger wrote:The speed increaser gives you the same under table shaping that the Power Pro does without the expense of the Power Pro. Shaper cutters work fine at 10,000RPM. So do most "Router" bits. I keep my PC 7518 motor on my router table at 13,000 or 16,000 most of the time. It goes up to 21,000RPM but I have never used it at that speed.
JMHO
Dick
1965 Mark VII S/N 407684
1951 10 ER S/N ER 44570 -- Reborn 9/16/14
1950 10 ER S/N ER 33479 Reborn July 2016
1950 10 ER S/N ER 39671
1951 jigsaw X 2
1951 !0 ER #3 in rebuild
500, Jointer, Bsaw, Bsander, Planer
2014 Mark 7 W/Lift assist - 14 4" Jointer - DC3300
And a plethora of small stuff .....
"The trouble with quotes on the Internet is that you can never know if they are genuine." - Benjamin Franklin
1965 Mark VII S/N 407684
1951 10 ER S/N ER 44570 -- Reborn 9/16/14
1950 10 ER S/N ER 33479 Reborn July 2016
1950 10 ER S/N ER 39671
1951 jigsaw X 2
1951 !0 ER #3 in rebuild
500, Jointer, Bsaw, Bsander, Planer
2014 Mark 7 W/Lift assist - 14 4" Jointer - DC3300
And a plethora of small stuff .....
"The trouble with quotes on the Internet is that you can never know if they are genuine." - Benjamin Franklin
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Re: SPEED INCREASER
My HO as well!rjent wrote:But John, it also gets the way tubes in the way. The speed increaser changes the PP to the horizontal position allowing a true under table router because of it. Yes, the under table routing on the PP is awesome and I use it all the time, but I am just saying that it would be nice to see 20K or so speeds because of the SI without the tubes in the way. If I am going to pay 300 dollars or so, I think it would be better money spend buying a router and building a table.jsburger wrote:The speed increaser gives you the same under table shaping that the Power Pro does without the expense of the Power Pro. Shaper cutters work fine at 10,000RPM. So do most "Router" bits. I keep my PC 7518 motor on my router table at 13,000 or 16,000 most of the time. It goes up to 21,000RPM but I have never used it at that speed.
JMHO
I would not use the SI with the PP to increase speed above 10K.
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