Why Does the Motor Housing Slop Down Toward 3-Way

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Re: Why Does the Motor Housing Slop Down Toward 3-Way

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edma194 wrote: Sat Sep 04, 2021 4:45 pm A quote being edited will look like the following (ignore CODE:SELECT ALL tags):

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I obviously was not careful enough.  Lesson learned.
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This can be easily used to make it appear anyone has posted anything. For instance:
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I think it was more weird than that. Dusty was quoting a post I made but when he was done there was no post by Dusty, instead it modified my post. Then when he went back and 'corrected' it, that again modified my post. Not only that, I quoted that earlier post, with his changes, in a second post and whatever he did modified the quote I had made. The original post is actually still slightly modified, contains a BOLD section from when Dusty tried to quote it.

I know it's gone now, but when Dusty originally posted the result was text added to my post that I didn't write. It appeared (to me) that he was able to inadvertently edit my post. I only thought it was Dusty based on the content.

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DLB wrote: Sat Sep 04, 2021 5:18 pm I think it was more weird than that. Dusty was quoting a post I made but when he was done there was no post by Dusty, instead it modified my post. Then when he went back and 'corrected' it, that again modified my post. Not only that, I quoted that earlier post, with his changes, in a second post and whatever he did modified the quote I had made. The original post is actually still slightly modified, contains a BOLD section from when Dusty tried to quote it.

I know it's gone now, but when Dusty originally posted the result was text added to my post that I didn't write. It appeared (to me) that he was able to inadvertently edit my post. I only thought it was Dusty based on the content.

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Yeah, I didn't see it happen, but I was just going based on your description and what I could see of the thread at the time this morning. Wondering if someone is a MODERATOR whether it is possible to accidentally alter someone else's post by accident like this.
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I think a moderator can alter a users post, not sure you can then make a post with someone else's by line. If someone wants to find out if this is possible start another thread and I or another moderator can/will try see what can be alter your post and see if we can then post with your by line. We can then delete the results and or thread.

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I am definitely the culprit here but I am not able to explain what all was done. I can say that I had no intention of presenting anything in a manner that would make it appear as though someone else (Dave) was the author.

I do prefer to quote others so that there is no question as to what provoked my comments. I feel that it keeps the conversation organized.
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A moderator does indeed have the ability to alter, delete another Users posts.
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DLB wrote: Sat Sep 04, 2021 9:42 am Nice work on the drawings Dusty. I mentioned the larger gap at the top of the DC-6000 Motor Housing and Main Housing to SS Engineering (Jim). Also, that it was caused by a nose down attitude compared to the DC-3300 with no corresponding change to the Motor Housing mechanical design. He was not aware of it. He said he would look at it as part of my 'repair.' The gap could be closed by additional machining of the motor housing, but I think that would necessitate a longer 4" coupler on the other end, and that appears to be an off-the-shelf item. (Mine had a bar code.)

- David
Just curious. Do you have your DC-6000 up and running? If so, how do you like it? I am pleased with mine now that I have the gap sealed up. To me it was worth the cost of the upgrade. It became an even better deal when I found a home for the guts of the DC-3300.
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dusty wrote: Fri Oct 01, 2021 4:06 pm
DLB wrote: Sat Sep 04, 2021 9:42 am Nice work on the drawings Dusty. I mentioned the larger gap at the top of the DC-6000 Motor Housing and Main Housing to SS Engineering (Jim). Also, that it was caused by a nose down attitude compared to the DC-3300 with no corresponding change to the Motor Housing mechanical design. He was not aware of it. He said he would look at it as part of my 'repair.' The gap could be closed by additional machining of the motor housing, but I think that would necessitate a longer 4" coupler on the other end, and that appears to be an off-the-shelf item. (Mine had a bar code.)

- David
Just curious. Do you have your DC-6000 up and running? If so, how do you like it? I am pleased with mine now that I have the gap sealed up. To me it was worth the cost of the upgrade. It became an even better deal when I found a home for the guts of the DC-3300.
I don't have it back yet but I had a message from Jim that it has been shipped so it should be here within the next few days. Per the message, they flattened the mating (with the fan housing) surface of my motor housing and added a silicone seal. (Perhaps sealant, it wasn't specific.) There was nothing in the message about the motor heating, I was a bit disappointed by that as it was the primary reason I agreed to send it. He also did not mention the wider gap and motor slope that is the subject of this thread.

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DLB wrote: Fri Oct 01, 2021 6:45 pm
dusty wrote: Fri Oct 01, 2021 4:06 pm
DLB wrote: Sat Sep 04, 2021 9:42 am Nice work on the drawings Dusty. I mentioned the larger gap at the top of the DC-6000 Motor Housing and Main Housing to SS Engineering (Jim). Also, that it was caused by a nose down attitude compared to the DC-3300 with no corresponding change to the Motor Housing mechanical design. He was not aware of it. He said he would look at it as part of my 'repair.' The gap could be closed by additional machining of the motor housing, but I think that would necessitate a longer 4" coupler on the other end, and that appears to be an off-the-shelf item. (Mine had a bar code.)

- David
Just curious. Do you have your DC-6000 up and running? If so, how do you like it? I am pleased with mine now that I have the gap sealed up. To me it was worth the cost of the upgrade. It became an even better deal when I found a home for the guts of the DC-3300.
I don't have it back yet but I had a message from Jim that it has been shipped so it should be here within the next few days. Per the message, they flattened the mating (with the fan housing) surface of my motor housing and added a silicone seal. (Perhaps sealant, it wasn't specific.) There was nothing in the message about the motor heating, I was a bit disappointed by that as it was the primary reason I agreed to send it. He also did not mention the wider gap and motor slope that is the subject of this thread.

- David
Apparently they did nothing about the slope of the Motor Housing. I conclude that because you say they treated the gap between the Main Housing and Motor Housing with silicon (of some sort). I would agree that that solves the issue (in a fashion) but there are more professional ways to gain the required mechanical fit. Yes. that would require retooling

I'm curious about how they flattened the interface between the fan housing and motor housing. I certainly would not disassemble though just to find out.

Looking forward to a "performance report".
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