Anyone else know what "True 32" is?

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Anyone else know what "True 32" is?

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If you don't you will soon. If you work in both imperial and metric or just metric this 32mm number will come up a lot especially in cabinetry work where I feel you are better off to just work in metric, conversions can be a pain.

So you are work in a base 32 system and well 32mm, then 64mm, 96mm, 128mm, and now I have to start adding. It really get bad when you get to say 1152mm, is that a 32mm increment? Or say you have something that needs to be about a foot tall but it doesn't have to be right on 12" but it would be nice to be on a 32mm increment. So you say "Alexa" how many mm is 12", she answers 304.8mm, well we know that isn't going to be a sweet 32 number.....

So here is where a rule that is a TRUE 32 comes in. If I look at the rule I see that the close 32mm numbers are 288 and 320, so I can just pick one and I'm off to work again. Yes there are other ways but lets look at this way.

Fastcap, a company I have both loved and hated over the years but at least they do have something that I find useful. This is their Pro Carpenter True 32 tape measure. Yes it has the usual pencil sharpener, notepad, rubber casing, dual locks etc.
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Those little dots are the 32 increments, in case you haven't figured that out yet.

So now you know what this is about. You can decide if this might be of help or just a waste of time.

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For a guy that hates using a tape measure for anything other than gross measurements, I sure have a plethora of them. There's the "normal" ones with feet and inches, the hybrids with both metric and imperial, the metric only ones and, the one I find most useful that uses tenths of an inch. But, my go to system for tool set ups is a combination of 1, 2, 3 blocks, key way stock and feeler gauges. And, I've been known to use playing cards, as well.
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I never came around to the metric system , fractions and decimals was never a issue . I very much dislike metric bolts and hardware not to mention metric blades . most are not as beefy as imperial eq . I have a few squares graduated in the metric system but hardly ever use the measuring graduations . with out glasses as thick as coke bottles old folks like me have issues trying to read those small lines and IMO accuracy is not any better .
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I'm amused that the label says it is a "16foot" tape but there are no other imperial markings!

My work took me to Europe a couple of times for several years so I used metric for many things, including most of my woodworking. It's not difficult. But I strongly dislike using both systems together. Are American cars ever going to go to one system or the other for fasteners? :confused: Seems like we've been 'in transition' for 40 years now.

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To resolve the differences between the various measurement systems we should we should switch to the Planck Length System. You just have to learn the number of Planck Lengths for each of the conventional measurements. For instance, 1 in is equal to 1.588e+33 pl and 1 mm is equal to 6.25e+31 pl. Just memorize those values to convert between them.
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edma194 wrote: Tue Dec 21, 2021 9:16 am To resolve the differences between the various measurement systems we should we should switch to the Planck Length System. You just have to learn the number of Planck Lengths for each of the conventional measurements. For instance, 1 in is equal to 1.588e+33 pl and 1 mm is equal to 6.25e+31 pl. Just memorize those values to convert between them.
That's kinda what I do, but I find it helps to tally them in score. I.e. "(8 score and 15)e+33 pl"
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I switched my shop to all metric about 10 years ago and for cabinets settled on the KISS II 32mm cabinet building style. Unfortunately 32mm hole spacing is the only commonality among the various 32mm systems. 32mm came about because that was the minimum spindle spacing on line boring machines for European cabinets 80+ years ago ... and some things never change once established.
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edma194 wrote: Tue Dec 21, 2021 9:16 am To resolve the differences between the various measurement systems we should we should switch to the Planck Length System. You just have to learn the number of Planck Lengths for each of the conventional measurements. For instance, 1 in is equal to 1.588e+33 pl and 1 mm is equal to 6.25e+31 pl. Just memorize those values to convert between them.
The British are also known to use the Planck Length System to measure mental acuity. ;)

Thus the saying. "He is as thick as two short Plancks" :)
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rpd wrote: Wed Dec 22, 2021 2:08 am The British are also known to use the Planck Length System to measure mental acuity. ;)

Thus the saying. "He is as thick as two short Plancks" :)
Very good ;). Have to remember that for my friends across the pond. 'Pond' is the British word for 'ocean' of course. They are required by law to talk funny over there.
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Tomorrow, December 23rd is the 46th anniversary of the passing of the US Metric Conversion Act. I don't think we did too well.
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