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Got 'er done!
Whew!
Next job is to rewire my solar powered metric hammer.
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I guess the next warm day will find me out in the garage checking my table.

Is anyone who has checked not found the issue? And if so have you also checked to see if it was already shimmed at an earlier time?

Just wondering.

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Let us not overlook the reason they do not come from Dayton already shimmed.

When the blade is canted back, the blade is cutting the lower part of the workpiece before the higher parts, thus creating a path for the sawing debris to exit.

I would ONLY shim when sawing curves in thick material.

Never when resawing or other straight cuts.
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My bandsaw manual says that is intentional. My bandsaw table has about 1.3 degress of pitch. The manual states if required you can shim the mounting bolt faces. About 30 thounds of an inch for mine.
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Hi,

My plan is to see what my other bandsaw looks like. I have used it for cutting thicker stock as described and have not seen the issues presented here. I think I'm going to find the table and blade are pretty close to right on.

It has no problem with sawdust/blade issues. If this is the case I see no reason a shopsmith has to have it to work "right".

That will be my premise as I proceed.

Ed

JPG40504 wrote:Let us not overlook the reason they do not come from Dayton already shimmed.

When the blade is canted back, the blade is cutting the lower part of the workpiece before the higher parts, thus creating a path for the sawing debris to exit.

I would ONLY shim when sawing curves in thick material.

Never when resawing or other straight cuts.
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reible wrote:Hi,

My plan is to see what my other bandsaw looks like. I have used it for cutting thicker stock as described and have not seen the issues presented here. I think I'm going to find the table and blade are pretty close to right on.

It has no problem with sawdust/blade issues. If this is the case I see no reason a shopsmith has to have it to work "right".

That will be my premise as I proceed.

Ed

There is 'right' and there may be 'better'. Who am I to say which it is? Then again it may be an oversight.:rolleyes: Sorta like the table upgrade.:eek:

I am also skeptical re the 'angled blade' is gooder(as I surmise you are)!
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Gene Howe wrote:I think my table is off kilter and has always been so.
I can easily square the table to the blade left and right. I cannot seem to find a way to adjust it front to back. When a square is placed on the back side of the blade (any blade) it's obvious that the blade tilts backward. That is, the portion of the blade closest to the table, always contacts the stock first.
I've known about this problem for years and it hasn't made too much of a difference until now.
I'm cutting curves in 5 1/4 thick stock for band saw boxes. As you can imagine, the blade/table misalignment cuts at a slight angle around curves. The "bottom" is either wider or narrower, depending on the cut direction.
Can anyone please help me get the table square in both directions?

When I found this condition on my saw, I fixed it by adjustment of the "blade column adjusting post". You know - that "Upper blade Giude".

By the Way - It's a good thing to have the bandsaw table line up with the main table for out feeds of re-saws.

Thought the table connection through the trunnions is a bit too shaky to trust on shimming the table.
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reible wrote:I guess the next warm day will find me out in the garage checking my table.

Is anyone who has checked not found the issue? And if so have you also checked to see if it was already shimmed at an earlier time?

Just wondering.

Ed

When purchased new, the band saw arrives with the table dismounted. The required hardware is packaged separate. Therefore, tables that need to be shimmed and have not been are the doings of the original owner; in my case that is I.

Given the mechanical characteristics of the band saw trunnion, it would be very unlikely that shimming is not required unless one does not care about that sort of thing.

I used mine for years without shimming. I mumbled from time to time about the quality of the cut (thinking it was my inability to "do it right") then one day I read the manual. It does make a difference, especially with thicker stock.
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JPG40504 wrote:Then again it may be an oversight.:rolleyes: Sorta like the table upgrade.:eek:
I must admit I have not heard about an issue with the table upgrade. What is the oversight to which you refer?
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algale wrote:I must admit I have not heard about an issue with the table upgrade. What is the oversight to which you refer?
Mount the bandsaw. Now try raising to vertical. The table is in the way(after all the table is bigger:D).

Legend has it the 'issue' was discovered at a demo(press release???) and the presenter just could not believe it.

That is the reason for the off set bandsaw mounting adapter. Shifts the bandsaw away from the headstock. Not very 'popular' since the offsetting bars are too flexible and the bs becomes whippy.
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