How many tools combs do you have in your shop?
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How many tools combs do you have in your shop?
Soooooooooooo say you own 5 shopsmiths. Given each of the 5 have these 5 functions, so at any one time you could have
5 table saws
or
5 drill presses
or
5 lathes
or
5 disk sanders
or
5 horizontal boring machines
of course you can have
1 table saw,
and
1 drill press
and
1 lathe
and
1 disk sander
and
1 horizontal boring machine
or how about
2 table saws
and
2 drill presses
and
1 lathe
Now I know some of you have the math back ground to provide the answer right now but I'd like to see some guesses as to how many combinations there are.
If you would rather then use the 7 functions of the newer models or even add a few more using a set of SPT..... and even feel free to have two shopsmiths or a shopsmith and power stand/etc.
Go have fun with it!
Next time you want to brag on how many could have think about what you might answer.
Ed
5 table saws
or
5 drill presses
or
5 lathes
or
5 disk sanders
or
5 horizontal boring machines
of course you can have
1 table saw,
and
1 drill press
and
1 lathe
and
1 disk sander
and
1 horizontal boring machine
or how about
2 table saws
and
2 drill presses
and
1 lathe
Now I know some of you have the math back ground to provide the answer right now but I'd like to see some guesses as to how many combinations there are.
If you would rather then use the 7 functions of the newer models or even add a few more using a set of SPT..... and even feel free to have two shopsmiths or a shopsmith and power stand/etc.
Go have fun with it!
Next time you want to brag on how many could have think about what you might answer.
Ed
- robinson46176
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I don't have any "combs" in my shop. My hair has thinned out enough in the top front that it no longer falls down in my face at all.
No... Wait... I see, your are abbreviating "combinations"...
I don't know the number and I am too lazy to figure it out but you are making the point that I constantly try to make. Even if you buy a $4000 tablesaw you still only have "ONE" tablesaw... With several Shopsmiths (5 as an example) you have 5 tablesaws. You also have 5 lathes and so on. The possibilities are almost endless and that is why that as I was buying for this final retirement woodshop and could have bought about any combination of stand alones I wanted (within a possible $10,000 or so total) but I bought a good sized herd of Shopsmiths (I lost count at 25. note that some were organ donors) instead. Flexibility, flexibility and flexibility.
Go to Sears or anyplace else and try to buy a Push-me Pull-me double drillpress...
Yet is has become a much favored tool in my shop.
As my sig line says, I didn't buy them in spite of the set-ups but because of them...
At this stage I have absolutely no regrets about my choice.
.
No... Wait... I see, your are abbreviating "combinations"...
I don't know the number and I am too lazy to figure it out but you are making the point that I constantly try to make. Even if you buy a $4000 tablesaw you still only have "ONE" tablesaw... With several Shopsmiths (5 as an example) you have 5 tablesaws. You also have 5 lathes and so on. The possibilities are almost endless and that is why that as I was buying for this final retirement woodshop and could have bought about any combination of stand alones I wanted (within a possible $10,000 or so total) but I bought a good sized herd of Shopsmiths (I lost count at 25. note that some were organ donors) instead. Flexibility, flexibility and flexibility.
Go to Sears or anyplace else and try to buy a Push-me Pull-me double drillpress...
As my sig line says, I didn't buy them in spite of the set-ups but because of them...
At this stage I have absolutely no regrets about my choice.
.
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farmer
Francis Robinson
I did not equip with Shopsmiths in spite of the setups but because of them.
1 1988 - Mark V 510 (bought new), 4 Poly vee 1 1/8th HP Mark V's, Mark VII, 1 Mark V Mini, 1 Frankensmith, 1 10-ER, 1 Mark V Push-me-Pull-me Drillpress, SS bandsaw, belt sander, jointer, jigsaw, shaper attach, mortising attach, TS-3650 Rigid tablesaw, RAS, 6" long bed jointer, Foley/Belsaw Planer/molder/ripsaw, 1" sander, oscillating spindle/belt sander, Scroll saw, Woodmizer sawmill
farmer
Francis Robinson
I did not equip with Shopsmiths in spite of the setups but because of them.
1 1988 - Mark V 510 (bought new), 4 Poly vee 1 1/8th HP Mark V's, Mark VII, 1 Mark V Mini, 1 Frankensmith, 1 10-ER, 1 Mark V Push-me-Pull-me Drillpress, SS bandsaw, belt sander, jointer, jigsaw, shaper attach, mortising attach, TS-3650 Rigid tablesaw, RAS, 6" long bed jointer, Foley/Belsaw Planer/molder/ripsaw, 1" sander, oscillating spindle/belt sander, Scroll saw, Woodmizer sawmill
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Combinations
Two Mark 5 / V 25 combs. Five = 3125
Two Mark 7 49 combs Five = 16807
Two Mark VII 36 combs (DC/vacuum available with all combs!) Five = 7776
Two Mark 7 49 combs Five = 16807
Two Mark VII 36 combs (DC/vacuum available with all combs!) Five = 7776
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Goldie(Bought New SN 377425)/4" jointer/6" beltsander/12" planer/stripsander/bandsaw/powerstation /Scroll saw/Jig saw /Craftsman 10" ras/Craftsman 6" thicknessplaner/ Dayton10"tablesaw(restoredfromneighborstrashpile)/ Mark VII restoration in 'progress'/ 10E[/size](SN E3779) restoration in progress, a 510 on the back burner and a growing pile of items to be eventually returned to useful life. - aka Red Grange
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Goldie(Bought New SN 377425)/4" jointer/6" beltsander/12" planer/stripsander/bandsaw/powerstation /Scroll saw/Jig saw /Craftsman 10" ras/Craftsman 6" thicknessplaner/ Dayton10"tablesaw(restoredfromneighborstrashpile)/ Mark VII restoration in 'progress'/ 10E[/size](SN E3779) restoration in progress, a 510 on the back burner and a growing pile of items to be eventually returned to useful life. - aka Red Grange
If I remember my math right, wouldn't five Mark 5/Vs result in 3,125 possible combinations? (5*5*5*5*5)
Five M7s would be 7*7*7*7*7 = 16,807 possible combinations.
Three M5s and two M7s would be 5*5*5*7*7 = 6,125 possible combinations.
Two 10ERs, two M5s, one M7s, and a Delta Unisaw would be 5*5*5*5*7*1 = 4,375 possible combinations.
Five M7s would be 7*7*7*7*7 = 16,807 possible combinations.
Three M5s and two M7s would be 5*5*5*7*7 = 6,125 possible combinations.
Two 10ERs, two M5s, one M7s, and a Delta Unisaw would be 5*5*5*5*7*1 = 4,375 possible combinations.
Heath
Central Louisiana
-10ER - SN 13927, Born 1949, Acquired October 2008, Restored November, 2008
-10ER - SN 35630, Born 1950, Acquired April 2009, Restored May 2009, A34 Jigsaw
-Mark V - SN 212052, Born 1986, Acquired Sept 2009, Restored March 2010, Bandsaw
-10ER - SN 39722, Born 1950, Acquired March 2011, awaiting restoration
Central Louisiana
-10ER - SN 13927, Born 1949, Acquired October 2008, Restored November, 2008
-10ER - SN 35630, Born 1950, Acquired April 2009, Restored May 2009, A34 Jigsaw
-Mark V - SN 212052, Born 1986, Acquired Sept 2009, Restored March 2010, Bandsaw
-10ER - SN 39722, Born 1950, Acquired March 2011, awaiting restoration
now, really
OK, shouldn't we all be out making sawdust instead?
Of course, tonight in Arkansas it's 36-degrees and blowing so my uninsulated tin barn is also unoccupied (except for the shop cat).
Gonna glance thru the forum then go read back issues of American Woodworker.
Besides, the shop is undergoing a drastic reorganization so no sawdust for awhile I'm afraid.
Of course, tonight in Arkansas it's 36-degrees and blowing so my uninsulated tin barn is also unoccupied (except for the shop cat).
Gonna glance thru the forum then go read back issues of American Woodworker.
Besides, the shop is undergoing a drastic reorganization so no sawdust for awhile I'm afraid.
'55 Greenie #292284 (Mar-55), '89 SS 510 #020989, Mark VII #408551 (sold 10/14/12), SS Band Saw, (SS 500 #36063 (May-79) now gone to son-in-law as of 11-11), Magna bandsaw, Magna jointer 16185 (May-54), Magna belt sander SS28712 (Dec-82), Magna jigsaw SS4397 (Dec-78), SS biscuit joiner, Zyliss (knockoff) vise, 20+ hand planes, 60s Craftsman tablesaw, CarbaTec mini-lathe, and the usual pile of tools. Hermit of the Hills Woodworks, a hillbilly in the foothills of the Ozarks, scraping by.
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- dusty
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In its simplest form, you actually have five (5).garys wrote:I like simple math. I have 1 Shopsmith..............so total here is ONE
It does everything I need so I'm not in the market to add to my 1
table saw, drill press, lathe, horizontal boring machine and disk sander
which could easily be stretched to include a polishing wheel, and a drum sander
"Making Sawdust Safely"
Dusty
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Dusty
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Math is not my forte (there's a reason I majored in English Lit. in college), so it took me a few minutes to figure out what you were saying here, but I think I understand now.Ed in Tampa wrote:Actually you would have 25 combinations 5x5.
But you could vary the set up to have 3125 different variations of those 25 combinations.
By my math (5*5*5*5*5 = 3,125 combinations) you would have duplicate "real world" combinations.
Example:
Machine A: table saw
Machine B: drill press
Machine C: disc sander
Machine D: horizontal drill press
Machine E: lathe
Machine A: table saw
Machine B: drill press
Machine C: disc sander
Machine D: lathe
Machine E: horizontal drill press
Two different combinations as far as the math goes, but the same thing in a "real world" situation.
So 25 (5*5) is the right answer.
Heath
Central Louisiana
-10ER - SN 13927, Born 1949, Acquired October 2008, Restored November, 2008
-10ER - SN 35630, Born 1950, Acquired April 2009, Restored May 2009, A34 Jigsaw
-Mark V - SN 212052, Born 1986, Acquired Sept 2009, Restored March 2010, Bandsaw
-10ER - SN 39722, Born 1950, Acquired March 2011, awaiting restoration
Central Louisiana
-10ER - SN 13927, Born 1949, Acquired October 2008, Restored November, 2008
-10ER - SN 35630, Born 1950, Acquired April 2009, Restored May 2009, A34 Jigsaw
-Mark V - SN 212052, Born 1986, Acquired Sept 2009, Restored March 2010, Bandsaw
-10ER - SN 39722, Born 1950, Acquired March 2011, awaiting restoration