The fairly young guys will probably not identify with my fortune cookie fortune today. I know most kids won't but those of us that used DOS should.
"Fortune Not Found: Abort, Retry, Ignore?"
My first DOS PC came with an instruction manual and it's depth went very little beyond how to find the on switch and how to operate same...
Before I got an actual DOS manual (3.1 I think, hey, they were scarce) I was the very image of the guy banging his head on the keyboard. I didn't know another soul on the planet to talk to for help. Absolutely nobody I knew owned a computer or wanted one. Ask on the Internet? What internet? My wife still tells of me disappearing into the office for hours and hours and her hearing nothing but me yelling at the computer... Calling it names...
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Francis Robinson
I did not equip with Shopsmiths in spite of the setups but because of them.
1 1988 - Mark V 510 (bought new), 4 Poly vee 1 1/8th HP Mark V's, Mark VII, 1 Mark V Mini, 1 Frankensmith, 1 10-ER, 1 Mark V Push-me-Pull-me Drillpress, SS bandsaw, belt sander, jointer, jigsaw, shaper attach, mortising attach, TS-3650 Rigid tablesaw, RAS, 6" long bed jointer, Foley/Belsaw Planer/molder/ripsaw, 1" sander, oscillating spindle/belt sander, Scroll saw, Woodmizer sawmill
robinson46176 wrote:The fairly young guys will probably not identify with my fortune cookie fortune today. I know most kids won't but those of us that used DOS should.
"Fortune Not Found: Abort, Retry, Ignore?"
My first DOS PC came with an instruction manual and it's depth went very little beyond how to find the on switch and how to operate same...
Before I got an actual DOS manual (3.1 I think, hey, they were scarce) I was the very image of the guy banging his head on the keyboard. I didn't know another soul on the planet to talk to for help. Absolutely nobody I knew owned a computer or wanted one. Ask on the Internet? What internet? My wife still tells of me disappearing into the office for hours and hours and her hearing nothing but me yelling at the computer... Calling it names...
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I still speak in fowl terms to my computer. The only difference is that there is no DOS.
Actually, I got very good with DOS, Wordperfect and the CPM OS. I still have a box full of software that runs on CPM and with DOS. Don't know why but I do. I think it might be valuable some day.
"Making Sawdust Safely" Dusty
Sent from my Dell XPS using Firefox.
Oh, those were the good old day without Windows. Actually, folks who knew what they were doing or at least had a clue could operate those machines. Folks with Windows (which I have) don't have to think about how to get it done. Remember A:\dir or C:\dir? Remember Edlin? Remember getting a C: drive? And, 10meg was a humungous hard drive. You could store lots of spreadsheets and word processing documents on there. Simple office programs such as: Multimate, Enable, All-In-One, dBase11, WordPerfect, and I just had a brain freeze.
Yes, I remember DOS 3.1 but really loved version 5. Could make menus and set the prompt to say something like C:\Where do you want to go?_ on someone's computer and they wondered how that got there. Now, you can browse the internet with Kindle, Nook, iPad and Droid phones. Amazing!
Thanks for the trip down memory lane.
Steve, the old Florida gator
I just love it when she says I can go make sawdust.
Ten Meg of memory was an upgrade! When I built my first computer it was 8086 based and had 64K of memory. The 8" floppy was a real monster. Then there was C:\delete or was it C:\erase.
The very first computer that I worked on was manufactured by Burroughs and had all of its bi-mag memory in one equipment cabinet and the memory drums in another.
"Making Sawdust Safely" Dusty
Sent from my Dell XPS using Firefox.
Dusty, you guys remember that with much more fondness than I. I know you guys enjoyed it and were good at it and I salute you all, but for my money, I'll take my " canned" applications and run. I have had Macs for years and the idea that they did well was make it as simple as possible for me, I like simple.
The first computer I worked with ran on 3-Phase electricity, had 128K (that's not meg) of memory, had 150MB of disk space, we ran a university for 5000 students, and cost over $300,000. The head actuators for the disk drives were hydraulic (yeah, oil) and made by Cessna. The first PC had a 4K motherboard (DOS 1.0). A 128K upgrade was in excess of $3,000. The first 300bps modem I had to deal with cost over $500.
Good old days?.....naaaaah....just the dark ages of computing.
Bud F.
1998 Mark V 510 bought used 2006, Jointer, 2 Bandsaws, ca 1960 Yuba SawSmith RAS
Projects and "stuff": http://www.bfulgham.com/JAlbum/Woodworking_Index/
My first home computer was a kit, Sinclair 1000. It was called that because it had 1000 bits of memory (that's bits, not kilobytes, not megabytes) It had a membrane keyboard, connected to the TV for a monitor and used a cassette player for long-term memory storage. I wonder what it would be worth today?
My first "real" computer was a Commodore 64 which I bought brand new at JC Penneys for (I think) about $700 back when that much money represented a few months salary. I eventually sold it with a bunch of accessories and software at a garage sale in the late '90s for about $25 I think.
I've also owned and used 8" floppy drives (Radio Shack), before the 5" and 3-1/4" floppys. My first experience with a big computer was at the University of Arkansas when that had a big mainframe IBM in it's own environmentally controlled room. I spent the summer debugging a Fortran IV program on punch cards. When I went to college at Harding University they had a DEC PDP11 mainframe, state-of-the-art, with those big stacks of hard drives, etc. What was cool was that they had remote terminals in rooms in other buildings!! with keyboards and green screens!!!!!! and you could program in Basic.
Good grief, now i feel really, really old........
'55 Greenie #292284 (Mar-55), '89 SS 510 #020989, Mark VII #408551 (sold 10/14/12), SS Band Saw, (SS 500 #36063 (May-79) now gone to son-in-law as of 11-11), Magna bandsaw, Magna jointer 16185 (May-54), Magna belt sander SS28712 (Dec-82), Magna jigsaw SS4397 (Dec-78), SS biscuit joiner, Zyliss (knockoff) vise, 20+ hand planes, 60s Craftsman tablesaw, CarbaTec mini-lathe, and the usual pile of tools. Hermit of the Hills Woodworks, a hillbilly in the foothills of the Ozarks, scraping by.
And the 'manuals' for early(pre 3.x) Dos included technical reference info as to how dos and the hardware communicated. Each succeeding version of Dos became more 'of a secret'.
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Goldie(Bought New SN 377425)/4" jointer/6" beltsander/12" planer/stripsander/bandsaw/powerstation /Scroll saw/Jig saw /Craftsman 10" ras/Craftsman 6" thicknessplaner/ Dayton10"tablesaw(restoredfromneighborstrashpile)/ Mark VII restoration in 'progress'/ 10E[/size](SN E3779) restoration in progress, a 510 on the back burner and a growing pile of items to be eventually returned to useful life. - aka Red Grange
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Francis Robinson
I did not equip with Shopsmiths in spite of the setups but because of them.
1 1988 - Mark V 510 (bought new), 4 Poly vee 1 1/8th HP Mark V's, Mark VII, 1 Mark V Mini, 1 Frankensmith, 1 10-ER, 1 Mark V Push-me-Pull-me Drillpress, SS bandsaw, belt sander, jointer, jigsaw, shaper attach, mortising attach, TS-3650 Rigid tablesaw, RAS, 6" long bed jointer, Foley/Belsaw Planer/molder/ripsaw, 1" sander, oscillating spindle/belt sander, Scroll saw, Woodmizer sawmill
My first computer had no hard drive or floppy and 16K of memory that eventually got upgraded to 64K and I added floppy disks from a Cannon typewriter/word processor that I got surplus. I wrote a lot of my own software.
My phone is several hundred thousand times more faster and more capable. On my hone computer I have about nine terabytes of disk space mostly used for backups.
Where I work we do not consider disk space less than a terabyte significant.
