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Looks like I might have been wrong. I did some quick searching on the 10ER Yahoo group and found this statement in an old post:

"there are some machines licensed to Australia. (All of them I've seen were painted red, though.)"

Looks like there's at least one machine discussed there with the "Made in Australia" badge. And there's at least one user there that is in Australia. So it might benefit you to join the Yahoo 10ER Group.
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-10ER - SN 13927, Born 1949, Acquired October 2008, Restored November, 2008
-10ER - SN 35630, Born 1950, Acquired April 2009, Restored May 2009, A34 Jigsaw
-Mark V - SN 212052, Born 1986, Acquired Sept 2009, Restored March 2010, Bandsaw
-10ER - SN 39722, Born 1950, Acquired March 2011, awaiting restoration
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Welcome Steve,

I got NO ERs... yet.
(@%#¥&) :mad:

>ahem<

Again, welcome sir, and enjoy. :)
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It odd, that when you to the ER serial # site page one in the first column it sez Australia. I dont know what the significance of that is though.
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Its interesting that the other Australian machines reported for that chart have an A prefix to the serial number, but there's no A prefix on this one.
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-10ER - SN 13927, Born 1949, Acquired October 2008, Restored November, 2008
-10ER - SN 35630, Born 1950, Acquired April 2009, Restored May 2009, A34 Jigsaw
-Mark V - SN 212052, Born 1986, Acquired Sept 2009, Restored March 2010, Bandsaw
-10ER - SN 39722, Born 1950, Acquired March 2011, awaiting restoration
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Heath,
do you have any info/thoughts on that Australian designation? I notice that B4 but thought those may have been ERs made to export to Australia. Now after seeing this thread and that motor, any possibility the first ones were made there and imported back here for selling? This day in age, it would not surprise me, but back in 1947ish that seems odd if they did that.
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heathicus wrote: Not sure what is going on with the electrical!
While searching i have found another machine of similar age with the same power switch attached to the headstock. Looks a bit out of place.

heathicus wrote:Where is that badge located?
The badge is located on the front of the headstock next to the shopsmith logo, in my pics its covered by the switch.
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Mega81.sure looks a home made freck up!!!
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rbursek wrote:Heath,
do you have any info/thoughts on that Australian designation? I notice that B4 but thought those may have been ERs made to export to Australia. Now after seeing this thread and that motor, any possibility the first ones were made there and imported back here for selling? This day in age, it would not surprise me, but back in 1947ish that seems odd if they did that.
I really don't think the first machines were made there and imported back. But it is interesting that the Australian machines have such low serial numbers. Looking at megastevo81's logo plate and comparing what's left of it it to my 10E logo plate, it looks identical including the "San Francisco, California, U.S.A." in the upper right quadrant (that text is between the 12:00 and 3:00 clock positions). So I'm really thinking they were manufactured in the US, shipped to Australia, assembled and the motor added there.

megastevo81 wrote:While searching i have found another machine of similar age with the same power switch attached to the headstock. Looks a bit out of place.

The badge is located on the front of the headstock next to the shopsmith logo, in my pics its covered by the switch.
Another Australian machine with the jointer headrest (and mounted backwards too). And a 10E logo plate, but 10ER upgrades (the fence, table raiser arm, spring lever on table trunnion). I wonder if that was standard on the Australian machines? I wonder how many Shopsmiths were "Made in Australia." Did the 10ER SPTs like the jigsaw and jointer make it down under as well?

What kind of switch is that? Is it a push/pull switch or does it turn like a knob? Is it common in Australia? Is it common anywhere else?
Heath
Central Louisiana
-10ER - SN 13927, Born 1949, Acquired October 2008, Restored November, 2008
-10ER - SN 35630, Born 1950, Acquired April 2009, Restored May 2009, A34 Jigsaw
-Mark V - SN 212052, Born 1986, Acquired Sept 2009, Restored March 2010, Bandsaw
-10ER - SN 39722, Born 1950, Acquired March 2011, awaiting restoration
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megastevo81 wrote:While searching i have found another machine of similar age with the same power switch attached to the headstock. Looks a bit out of place.




The badge is located on the front of the headstock next to the shopsmith logo, in my pics its covered by the switch.
I have seen that 'badge' one other time. IIRC there were some interesting 'deviations' from USA machines. This one looks more 'standard'.
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What were some of those deviations and what could be surmised from those deviations?
Heath
Central Louisiana
-10ER - SN 13927, Born 1949, Acquired October 2008, Restored November, 2008
-10ER - SN 35630, Born 1950, Acquired April 2009, Restored May 2009, A34 Jigsaw
-Mark V - SN 212052, Born 1986, Acquired Sept 2009, Restored March 2010, Bandsaw
-10ER - SN 39722, Born 1950, Acquired March 2011, awaiting restoration
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