I Wonder Which Machines They Looked At

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I Wonder Which Machines They Looked At

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I sent away for some Mark 7 informational material (in case I hit the lottery). I received an email back telling me about the Mark 7's advantages over stand alone tools, including a link comparing the cost and features of the six most comparable stand alone tools to each of the Mark 7's seven functions. I don't think I've ever seen this analysis before and unfortunately they don't identify which six tools they are using for comparison purposes.

Here's the link: http://www.shopsmith.com/mark7site/emai ... pn=WUXYPYV
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algale wrote:I sent away for some Mark 7 informational material (in case I hit the lottery). I received an email back telling me about the Mark 7's advantages over stand alone tools, including a link comparing the cost and features of the six most comparable stand alone tools to each of the Mark 7's seven functions. I don't think I've ever seen this analysis before and unfortunately they don't identify which six tools they are using for comparison purposes.

Here's the link: http://www.shopsmith.com/mark7site/emai ... pn=WUXYPYV
It is kind of impressive .... I do get a kick of the infinitely variable from 250 to 10000. In reality, it goes in 1 RPM steps from 250 to 10000, hardly "infinite". The Mark V is truly "infinite" as theoretically there is always one speed in between any two settings on the dial .... :D

I know, picking nits .... :rolleyes:
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More nit picking!

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JPG wrote:More nit picking!

" Shopamirh Mark 7 "
Not any more :) I must have been half-asleep on that one, when fixing it I caught two other typos in that same page.

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They looked at commercial production machines.

And PRODUCTION is the operative word here. They looked at machines that were built to handle thousands of board feet a month.

Interestingly I know many commercial Production shops that use lesser machines process hundreds if not thousand of board feet a month and do it day in and day out.
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Ed in Tampa wrote:They looked at commercial production machines.

And PRODUCTION is the operative word here. They looked at machines that were built to handle thousands of board feet a month.

Interestingly I know many commercial Production shops that use lesser machines process hundreds if not thousand of board feet a month and do it day in and day out.
I had a feeling you would respond to this, Ed. I suspect you are right but I'm curious how you know that they looked at production machines.
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This thread is kind of turning negative. Although there are always arguments for or against anything, I think that the fact I have three Shopsmith products, one of which is 63 years old and a second one that is 32 years old and both are still doing what they were built for, speaks volumes.

Personally I wouldn't want stand alone machines: production level or not .... The whole idea behind what the Shopsmith is, particularly the Mark 7 suits me to a tee ...

Thank you Shopsmith for such a fine, American made machine, may you long continue for many more generations ... :cool:
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1965 Mark VII S/N 407684
1951 10 ER S/N ER 44570 -- Reborn 9/16/14
1950 10 ER S/N ER 33479 Reborn July 2016
1950 10 ER S/N ER 39671
1951 jigsaw X 2
1951 !0 ER #3 in rebuild
500, Jointer, Bsaw, Bsander, Planer
2014 Mark 7 W/Lift assist - 14 4" Jointer - DC3300
And a plethora of small stuff .....

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Ed in Tampa wrote:They looked at commercial production machines.

And PRODUCTION is the operative word here. They looked at machines that were built to handle thousands of board feet a month.

Interestingly I know many commercial Production shops that use lesser machines process hundreds if not thousand of board feet a month and do it day in and day out.
If they did do this comparison against PRODUCTION MACHINES, I am impressed. The Shopsmith did quite well.
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dusty wrote:
Ed in Tampa wrote:They looked at commercial production machines.

And PRODUCTION is the operative word here. They looked at machines that were built to handle thousands of board feet a month.

Interestingly I know many commercial Production shops that use lesser machines process hundreds if not thousand of board feet a month and do it day in and day out.
If they did do this comparison against PRODUCTION MACHINES, I am impressed. The Shopsmith did quite well.
Good point! :D :D :D Somehow I doubt this will be the last word....
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algale wrote:
dusty wrote:
Ed in Tampa wrote:They looked at commercial production machines.

And PRODUCTION is the operative word here. They looked at machines that were built to handle thousands of board feet a month.

Interestingly I know many commercial Production shops that use lesser machines process hundreds if not thousand of board feet a month and do it day in and day out.
If they did do this comparison against PRODUCTION MACHINES, I am impressed. The Shopsmith did quite well.
Good point! :D :D :D Somehow I doubt this will be the last word....
This shall be the last post from me on this subject. I normally do not give manufacturers reports much attention. One can not expect them to report the negatives and they always highlight what they see as positives.

The fact that Shopsmith is in business and the web site is constantly improving and expanding tells me all that I need to know.
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