Found a PDF on the Popular Woodworking site this morning that is a collection of a few articles with some How-To and Why info for staining wood. Flexner is one of my top Go-To guys for finishing info.
http://www.popularwoodworking.com/wp-co ... ngWood.pdf
How-To: Staining Wood by Bob Flexner
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How-To: Staining Wood by Bob Flexner
Bud F.
1998 Mark V 510 bought used 2006, Jointer, 2 Bandsaws, ca 1960 Yuba SawSmith RAS
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1998 Mark V 510 bought used 2006, Jointer, 2 Bandsaws, ca 1960 Yuba SawSmith RAS
Projects and "stuff": http://www.bfulgham.com/JAlbum/Woodworking_Index/
Re: How-To: Staining Wood by Bob Flexner
Nice to see these references on subjects most of us fear or, at least, aren't real fond of.
I do question one bit of advice though. He says that you can keep adding dyes to get a deeper color. I had occasion to want to do this and talked to Lockwood, one of the water and alcohol based dyes. They told me that was not recommended since it did not work well.
Being a natural skeptic I tried it but was not successful either. Suggestion: try it on test pieces first.
The way to get deeper color with dyes is to increase the concentration.
He correctly says that you should not put a water base finish over oil-based stain, but I didn't see the statement that you can put an oil-based finish over a water-based dye.
Forrest
I do question one bit of advice though. He says that you can keep adding dyes to get a deeper color. I had occasion to want to do this and talked to Lockwood, one of the water and alcohol based dyes. They told me that was not recommended since it did not work well.
Being a natural skeptic I tried it but was not successful either. Suggestion: try it on test pieces first.
The way to get deeper color with dyes is to increase the concentration.
He correctly says that you should not put a water base finish over oil-based stain, but I didn't see the statement that you can put an oil-based finish over a water-based dye.
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Re: How-To: Staining Wood by Bob Flexner
Thanks for the link, Bud. I really dislike all finishing related tasks but maybe reading this will ease some of the pain.
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More Flexner Tips and Articles
There are numerous tips and articles here:
http://news.thefinishingstore.com/?author=12
Forrest: A water-based finish over an oil stain is normally a No-No. But, in my limited experience, you can seal the oil stain with shellac and then get away using a water-based finish. Like you said....try a test piece first![Wink ;)](./images/smilies/wink.gif)
http://news.thefinishingstore.com/?author=12
Forrest: A water-based finish over an oil stain is normally a No-No. But, in my limited experience, you can seal the oil stain with shellac and then get away using a water-based finish. Like you said....try a test piece first
![Wink ;)](./images/smilies/wink.gif)
Bud F.
1998 Mark V 510 bought used 2006, Jointer, 2 Bandsaws, ca 1960 Yuba SawSmith RAS
Projects and "stuff": http://www.bfulgham.com/JAlbum/Woodworking_Index/
1998 Mark V 510 bought used 2006, Jointer, 2 Bandsaws, ca 1960 Yuba SawSmith RAS
Projects and "stuff": http://www.bfulgham.com/JAlbum/Woodworking_Index/
Re: How-To: Staining Wood by Bob Flexner
NUTS! This is a bad rumor!
I've used water based finishes many times over an oil based coat. It is standard in my shop.
The chest in my icon is an example. http://www.shopsmith.com/ss_forum/viewt ... 090#p64090 - Scroll down to the 5th post it says what the finish was.
Also this -
Also the wood chest at the back of the table.
I've used water based finishes many times over an oil based coat. It is standard in my shop.
The chest in my icon is an example. http://www.shopsmith.com/ss_forum/viewt ... 090#p64090 - Scroll down to the 5th post it says what the finish was.
Also this -
Also the wood chest at the back of the table.
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Re: How-To: Staining Wood by Bob Flexner
I'll defer to your experience!
Sure nuff worked very well for you!
Sure nuff worked very well for you!
Bud F.
1998 Mark V 510 bought used 2006, Jointer, 2 Bandsaws, ca 1960 Yuba SawSmith RAS
Projects and "stuff": http://www.bfulgham.com/JAlbum/Woodworking_Index/
1998 Mark V 510 bought used 2006, Jointer, 2 Bandsaws, ca 1960 Yuba SawSmith RAS
Projects and "stuff": http://www.bfulgham.com/JAlbum/Woodworking_Index/