SS 330 VAC question

[putttn]

This video gives a example of dust extraction with the Dust Deputy and I would imagine a drum sander would virtually be the same type of dust generated by the Festool sander?
http://festoolownersgroup.com/festool-t ... ation-use/

[letterk]

I don't think you are missing anything, it should help with collecting the fine dust. I take it the smaller the dust the more that might go through the seperator to the collector, but it will make the maintenance on the collector a lot less frequent. I have the Rockler seperator and it works great, but it does reduce likely reduce the effectiveness of the collector.

Would think having a undersized collector would work better for sanding dust that it would for chips or planner shavings. I just used my DC3300 with my Ryobi planner and it was woefully underpowered for keeping up with the planner shavings. The planner does have the feature to rotate the tube out of place and eject chips, which was what I had to do.

[jsburger]

I am surprised that the Dust Deputy doesn't do anything for light dust. My experience with my Festool sanders has been the opposite. Hooked to the sander is the Dust Deputy and a Festool vacuum with Heppa filters. Whenever I sand the vast majority of the dust accumulates in the Dust Deputy and checking the bags on my Festool vacuum reveals little or nothing. The Heppa filters almost look like new. Am I missing something here?

No you are not missing anything. The Dust Deputy is doing what it was designed to do. My point was that it is not necessary for light sanding dust other than it may be easier to empty. As I said in my other post, in my experience putting any kind of a separator in line with a low CFM dust collector only makes things worse from a CFM stand point. For sanding dust it probably doesn't matter but when you get to a planer or jointer you want all the air flow you can get.

[putttn]

Well it looks like I'll need to run a little experiment and see what happens with my setup. Hopefully I'll be doing some jointing and plane work tomorrow so I'll throw in some sanding to see what happens. More to come later

[STB]

I have the SS 330 Vacuum and I'm considering purchasing the SuperMax 18-38 drum sander. I have read they suggest a 600 CFM dust collector and I'm wondering if the 330 is hooked to a dust deputy if this will make the 330 a acceptable dust collector? I believe the 330 has 357 CFM

I used my SS DC3300 on the old style Preformax (forerunner to the SuperMax). I do not have a dust deputy. The DC3300 worked OK and kept most of the dust out of the air. The biggest problem with my setup was when sanding pitchey wood or higher moisture wood the dust would ball up in front of the sanding drum. The dust would then collect on the pressure rollers and fall on the work piece and feed belt. Sticking to the feed belt it would end up under the work piece also under the feed belt.
I also have an older Delta 16-32 open ended drum sander. I don't remember the cfm of the dust collector but it has a 3 hp 220v motor. The dust collection on the Delta has a better design than the old style Preformax. The higher cfm and better design eliminates the dust balling up in front of the drum.

For what it's worth this has been my experience.

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[jsburger]

WoW, I guess that is an old Performax. I have never seen one like that. I have a 16/32 that I bought new a few years before they stopped making that name in favor of the Jet (same sander same company). My JDS 1.5 HP DC with a 1 micron canister filter worked fine with the Performax. Now that I have a Clearvue Max at 5 HP and almost 2000 CFM it is a no brainer. NO dust escapes.

[algale]

WoW, I guess that is an old Performax. I have never seen one like that. I have a 16/32 that I bought new a few years before they stopped making that name in favor of the Jet (same sander same company). My JDS 1.5 HP DC with a 1 micron canister filter worked fine with the Performax. Now that I have a Clearvue Max at 5 HP and almost 2000 CFM it is a no brainer. NO dust escapes.

Or even light I would imagine. In fact, I'm surprised you haven't sucked yourself into another dimension!

[jsburger]

I don't think you are missing anything, it should help with collecting the fine dust. I take it the smaller the dust the more that might go through the seperator to the collector, but it will make the maintenance on the collector a lot less frequent. I have the Rockler seperator and it works great, but it does reduce likely reduce the effectiveness of the collector.

Would think having a undersized collector would work better for sanding dust that it would for chips or planner shavings. I just used my DC3300 with my Ryobi planner and it was woefully underpowered for keeping up with the planner shavings. The planner does have the feature to rotate the tube out of place and eject chips, which was what I had to do.

You just made my point. Almost anything will suck up sanding dust. When we are talking planer/jointer chips you need a LOT more CFM. If you have a marginal DC (the DC3300 or any of the 1.5 HP bag DCs, after all they are all the same no matter who made them) they are under powered. Has anyone seen a SS demo using the DC3300 with the planer or jointer? One machine at a time maybe but you certainly can't pipe them in and expect any kind of efficient collection.

It is all about air flow and the trash can lid I used reduced the air flow on my JDS DC. My guess is that the Dust Deputy will do the same thing for any marginal DC. Sanding dust not withstanding.

As I said before, they say that what these separators do is that they protect your DC impeller from big chunks damaging the blades when they pass through. Well, most (all) of the 1.5 HP bag DCs and the SS which is less than 1.5HP don't have enough air flow to suck up anything big enough to hurt the impeller. So that is bunk.

When I was still working in my garage I had half for storing the SS stuff. The other half was for the wife's car. I know you guys know how that is. The truck staid out side.

We always swept up the garage with the JDS DC. I would have to empty the 4" hose because it always has a lot of sand an small stones from the car.

Air Flow, Air Flow, Air Flow !!!

[jsburger]

WoW, I guess that is an old Performax. I have never seen one like that. I have a 16/32 that I bought new a few years before they stopped making that name in favor of the Jet (same sander same company). My JDS 1.5 HP DC with a 1 micron canister filter worked fine with the Performax. Now that I have a Clearvue Max at 5 HP and almost 2000 CFM it is a no brainer. NO dust escapes.

Or even light I would imagine. In fact, I'm surprised you haven't sucked yourself into another dimension!

For that to happen someone would have to figure how to fit me in a 4" dust hose. Not likely.

When I finally get it plumbed in it will have an 8" main line, 6" drops and 4" flex lines to the tools.

[putttn]

Well today was a jointing planing experiment with a Rigid Shop vac hooked up to a Dust Deputy. It did a decent job of collecting the chips. Same with the planer. Filled the DD doing a couple of 1x6 cedar boards.