Forum Restructure

[everettdavis]

Taqs and 'sub forums' make sense for 'new' posts, but it would be advantageous for the initiator of older posts to be able to 'add' the tags and assign to a sub forum. Work for the original poster but it would prevent older stuff from being lost in the shuffle.

I agree with that.

Everett

[ERLover]

I am done here on this thread, I have had my says and comments, yes some sub things would be nice and if the MS needs some $ to do it I would contribute.
I do believe I have said enough.
I am not a computer or soft ware anything so I will leave that up to the ones that and will help out the MS on that.
To the stone throwers, just remember sometimes they bounce/ricochet back!!!

[Ed in Tampa]

Come on guys! The community forum for the most part is very interesting. Sure when you get on religion or politics there are strong feelings but, for the most part most threads that touch those subjects have been handled.
I love Reible's stories, observations and photos along with others that often post there.
I love Dusty's latest rants, usually because it is mine also. I love the threads on nature, weird things and people that come into our lives and generally almost every thread on the community sub group either interests, informs, or entertains me.

What I get tired of is mom's latest bowel movement reports. I understand the need to vent! I really do. But many of us have been there done that and don't want to relive it on forum designed for hobby/entertainment. Hey if you need to vent I'm here PM me I will listen.

As far as a ER subgroup I agree, while there are similarities with the Mark but for the most part most of the discussion on them is about things particular to the ER. Why not focus it in a subgroup?

As for cost I believe the forums in general is a very cost effective form of focused advertising. How many SS sales have been generated from here I don't know but I do know the have effected my buying.

Just my opinion!

[everettdavis]

My only thoughts within this thread has been to explore ways in which we can readily find the wealth of valuable and highly specific information that is contained within the various forums and threads that is here, or will be in the future relative to the tools we resurrect, restore, use and love.

I would put it this way; As our library of information continues growing from the small library with several rows of shelves, to fill a large footprint with many extended rows of shelves, finding the right shelf, the right book, the right chapter, and the right page grows increasingly difficult.

It is not the content of the library, but the location within it that needs to be located when each of us encounter something for the first time ourselves or re-encounters it years later, as we seek to resolve an issue, enhance the accuracy, or safety of these remarkable machines.

I must say that in meeting many of you here in the forums, and several in person, it is not just the machines that I find remarkable.

Everett

[dusty]

My only thoughts within this thread has been to explore ways in which we can readily find the wealth of valuable and highly specific information that is contained within the various forums and threads that is here, or will be in the future relative to the tools we resurrect, restore, use and love.

I would put it this way; As our library of information continues growing from the small library with several rows of shelves, to fill a large footprint with many extended rows of shelves, finding the right shelf, the right book, the right chapter, and the right page grows increasingly difficult.

It is not the content of the library, but the location within it that needs to be located when each of us encounter something for the first time ourselves or re-encounters it years later, as we seek to resolve an issue, enhance the accuracy, or safety of these remarkable machines.

I must say that in meeting many of you here in the forums, and several in person, it is not just the machines that I find remarkable.

Everett

You are a kind sole, Everett. I say that even though I have no reason to believe that I am to be included in the grouping. It matters not. You are a kind sole.

[everettdavis]

Of course you are Dusty. You have contributed much to my own knowledge of all things Shopsmith, and more, and will in the future I am sure.

If I may paraphrase one of my heroes who passed before I was born; Will Rogers - "I never met a Shopsmith person I didn't like."

Everett

[ERLover]

Ya know some, I read your "digs" all day, take a happy pill
Community is, I believe for social discussions, maybe try and be more social!!! . Ya never know when you might have to start cooking and doing laundry. Not political as the MS has pointed out.

I don't know where you got the idea that the Community forum is for Social Discussions but if it is, much of what I read in the Community forum is everything but sociable. In fact, much of the forum has become non-sociable.

In the early days of the forum, the Community section was used for "shop related discussions" that did not fit comfortably in the other sections of the forum; that is to say 1)not for beginners 2) not for general woodworking, 3) not a tool review and 4) not maintenance and repair. It was also understood that the forum discussions would not be religious or political. It was generally understood by the members that forum comments would not be aggressive or demeaning. Sociable - YES but not bar-room sociable.

Ya know Dusty, you did not put a time frame on when the Community Forum started, but I have only been a member here at most 5 years, and when I got on it there was no Community Forum, I think JPG asked the Admin for it, I maybe wrong, but that is my recollection.
Some one correct me if I am wrong on the time frame, I take it well.

[ERLover]

Actually, I would like to see the Community section limited to "Shop Related Discussions". This would only loosely translate to "wood working".

Perhaps rather than this, that a new section "Shop Talk," or so, be created for such discussions. Maybe rename Community to "Off Topic" for all things completely unrelated to SS & woodworking so that the delineation is clear.

I, for one, feel like this is a bit of a loose family, like a bunch of 2nd cousins or something, on this forum and don't mind hearing about folks' recovering from health issues, new junior woodworkers and grand woodworkers in training, they are okay following storm/earthquake/fire/whatever catastrophe, etc.

I agree Roy, a "Shop Talk" forum would be a bit in between, Maintenance, Beginner or General Wood Working, and Tool Review. It would define an other area, close I think to Tool Review, but maybe more on techniques, home made jigs, a process to get there, ect which pretty much end up in Tool Review, depends on the MS and how much space they have here, not being any type of a computer/soft ware/website literate I dont know, nice thought though.

[ERLover]

Wednesday night/early Thursday AM I said I was done with this thread, well tonight and into Friday AM reread all of it.
In some ways it humbled me a bit, I think and could be wrong , it got started out of some of my post/threads. In the 5 pages of this thread, there was a lot of venting, true but direct things said, and many good ideas for some sub areas on the Forum to be created.
I am guessing with the summer heat, med procedures, wish I was younger, me too, 5 degrees of dying, I know that is not the right title, but it is late, just got it again from the library, 5* of Death and Dying for MOM to read. there was pent up frustrations that came out here, and all of our fears of dying, yes MOM is 96, most here are just young bucks to her!!!.
Me talking about my 96 year MOM, that last year this time functioned physically and mentally as a 75 year old, and in 2 months lost the physically part, do a graph of that, but not her brain. You want to be frustrated, just ask her!! She went to a 75 year old physically to her age of 95 in 2 months, no 20 year down slide. Retired at 63, got bored a few years latter and went back to work part time till 80!!
Scared, we are all scared of that, I am 64, and just wish in my sleep about 70 ish just dont wake up. Of course that is after MOM is gone.
I am sorry if my threads/post here about MOM remind you of your own mortality, it was not my intent, just some venting.
I thought on Community we were a community/village?

[rpd]

Ya know Dusty, you did not put a time frame on when the Community Forum started, but I have only been a member here at most 5 years, and when I got on it there was no Community Forum, I think JPG asked the Admin for it, I maybe wrong, but that is my recollection.
Some one correct me if I am wrong on the time frame, I take it well.

The Community forum has been here since day one. http://shopsmith.com/ss_forum/community ... me-t5.html
Under the old bbs software it was separate from all the other forums so you could only see it from the top level of the menu.