510 Model Bench

[babalaisi]

Thanks a bundle to everyone for the ideas . And Yes, thanks to "br549", you are right. I was and always look for the simplest solution b4 looking for others. Your idea should work. Where did you get those 3 inch casters with the right stud for insertion into the SS part? Or, is there a set of measurements that I need to look for in the studs height and diameter, etc?
Cheers!!

[babalaisi]

Thanks a bundle to everyone for the ideas . And Yes, thanks to "br549", you are right. I was and always look for the simplest solution b4 looking for others. Your idea should work. Where did you get those 3 inch casters with the right stud for insertion into the SS part? Or, is there a set of measurements that I need to look for in the studs height and diameter, etc?
Cheers!!

[br549]

Where did you get those 3 inch casters with the right stud for insertion into the SS part? Or, is there a set of measurements that I need to look for in the studs height and diameter, etc?
Cheers!!

I don't remember off hand who I got them thru, but can look that up and post later.

If you haven't already, review my previous post where I explained my whole process ... the stem type is called a Grip Ring (w/ brass band) and is 7/16" diameter x about 1-3/8" long.

You alone can pick the type of wheel material you want ... I explained the rationale for the choice that I made in my previous post.

The width of wheel may not be as critical for you as it was for me ... I have the older style casters where the foot pedal is very close to the end of the rod. With your 510, the foot pedal may be further away from the end and the foot pedal may not conflict with a larger and wider wheel. See the link to the post that reible added to explain the whole conflict issue: http://www.shopsmith.com/ss_forum/viewtopic.php?t=10221

Attached is just one caster manufacturer's product info that I researched. Once you pick a style and type of caster, then you can try to find it or one like it. Ebay is chock full of casters vendors. handtrucksandcasters is one ebay seller that has a lot of listings, but I learned to read their descriptions very carefully as there are frequently mistakes in the descriptions.

A final thought ... if you already have the 3" premium casters and if they are installed in new higher holes that were drilled, why not just try putting the brackets in the lower original holes first. That alone will give you another inch of clearance when rolling, and that may be enough without having to go to larger diameter wheels and dropping down to the lower holes.

[babalaisi]

Thank you so much Br549. Looked at the .pdf and saw the casters. Do I have to use a "grip ring"or can the same be done with a threaded stem as long as the stem length is the same?

[br549]

Thank you so much Br549. Looked at the .pdf and saw the casters. Do I have to use a "grip ring"or can the same be done with a threaded stem as long as the stem length is the same?

The instuctions for the 3" premium casters call for drilling new holes in the legs, higher than the holes for use with 2" casters (a template is provided). In a normal installation, the 3" casters therefore don't give any additional rolling clearance for going up or down ramps or over uneven surfaces. If your existing 3" casters with the brackets in the original lower holes don't give enough rolling clearance, then look at getting larger diameter wheels, such as 4".

Any new casters will need to have the same kind of stem as you have now, which should be grip ring style. Some grip rings are just a narrow wire, some are brass bands. This type of stem is a friction fit inside of the receiving socket, with the split grip ring or brass band compressing slighting when installed. While either should work, I prefer the brass band type. You might want to pull one caster off and see for yourself what type you have now. And verify that you have two sets of holes drilled in the legs, and that the brackets are currently installed in the upper set of holes. If so, then I again think moving the brackets to the lower set of holes should be your first step and see if that results in enough rolling clearance.

[reible]

I see this as a two fold issue.

One answer is to treat it that way. The path you have to follow to get the machine into a place to work right now sounds like it almost impossible. So what could be done to make it better?

I too have to bring my shopsmith to the driveway to work. I have made a simple set of ramps that make that possible. The driveway is somewhere near 2-1/4" lower the the garage floor. I have a piece that makes up that difference and then tapers to driveway level. I'm guess that your situation is much worse.

So one idea is to make a trail for it to ride on over what ever roughness exists. This could be elevated slightly higher then the highest point and done in sections for easy placement and storage. Some 2 x stock cut to work towards level and then some cheap plywood attached to run on.

What ever you do you do not want your shopsmith to tip over. That would be a "killer" thing to have happen. So if you have places where it might be a chance of having that happen on the route address this too.

Another thing that can help is to take the easy to remove parts off the machine, like the main table and extensions, anything can lighten it a few pounds if fair game. It also make is narrower which might be an advantage as well.

If it has a cabinet mounted below put that on casters as well and move it separately. Other parts can be added to a cart that could work like a tender to provide that needed parts to do what ever you are working on easier than having to return to the storage area to get them.

The second part of this might be casters. If the path is really ruff then even larger casters are not going to be much of a solution. I upgraded mine to the new versions and while they make moving the machine much easier on the flat concrete of the garage they do next to nothing on the ruff driveway. So height alone may not do all that you expect it to.

Best wishes on a good solution,

Ed

[babalaisi]

Thank you so much forum. I have already started trying the suggestions made here. Should be able to get back with a success story or "tears"
Once again, I truly appreciate all the ideas and the time taken to help out a Newbie.
'Thanks Forum