I have not been happy with the old OPR and the dust collector hanging on the back. It seems to get maybe 10% of the dust/chips and gets in the way 70% of the time. I've taken it off for almost everything I do now and only put it on once in a while when I know it will help at least a little.
I was making a ZCI out of UHMW plastic this summer and I'm still finding the chips from this stuff... they are like snow flakes coming off the router bit and floating around and it was very clear most of them did not get sucked up. I had a box of scraps maybe 3 feet away and a lot of them found there way there and dropped over the wood like new fallen snow. Sorry, some of you may not know about snow but it seems the best reference I could think of to explain it.
I've never attached it to shopsmith dust collector since I don't own one... does that help? I do have a dust collector but would have to adapt from 4" down to the small section of 2" hose and still would have only the small capture area behind the router... Maybe I need to just try this but my guess is it will not help much???
Has anyone made a "big gulp" setup or tried anything else that has worked for you?? I've even thought about adding a rain gutter around 3 sides...
Ed
OPR and dust collection??
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OPR and dust collection??
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Zero Clearance Insert, I guess I should have said that as it is not used much on this forum and lots of people may not have seen it before.... Where I use to work it took you months to learn what people were talking about... ah the old ma bell system how I miss you.
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On my router table on which I use my old 510 fence I built a 3 1/4" cube that only has three sides and a top no bottom. I then attach it to the sub fence assemble I built that goes on my 510 fence.
In the top of this box I mounted an old SS dust collector hose end and using a hose connector I connect my SS dust collector to it.
There is a small percentage of dust that falls pass my bit and is blown by the Router fan in a pattern on floor but I think I'm catching about 90+% of all the dust made.
I would think you could adapt something like that for your use. Since the bit comes down from the top you will need something to allow a reasonable seal but yet allows for bit to penetrate through it. Off hand I'm thinking brush bristles. Similar to the those that SS uses on their Router Guard setup. The bristles would open to allow the bit to be passed through and then come close to form a fair dust seal around either the router or just the bit shaft.
Just a thought
Ed
In the top of this box I mounted an old SS dust collector hose end and using a hose connector I connect my SS dust collector to it.
There is a small percentage of dust that falls pass my bit and is blown by the Router fan in a pattern on floor but I think I'm catching about 90+% of all the dust made.
I would think you could adapt something like that for your use. Since the bit comes down from the top you will need something to allow a reasonable seal but yet allows for bit to penetrate through it. Off hand I'm thinking brush bristles. Similar to the those that SS uses on their Router Guard setup. The bristles would open to allow the bit to be passed through and then come close to form a fair dust seal around either the router or just the bit shaft.
Just a thought
Ed
I wholeheartedly agree with reible on this issue! The OPR dust collection leaves much to be desired on the new arm also. I believe it was designed for collection during pin routing and is not easily adaptable to use during other routing operations.
There is a good and a bad thing associated with this issue.
Good: The shavings from routing are large enough the there is not the problem with fine dust.
Bad: There is one hell of a lot of shavings produced.
I've tried using my "small floor pickup" attachment. This is the one that comes with the Utility Vacuum Extension" (555582). Mine came with the Drum Sander/Molder fence kit, but I didn't get a extension rod with it.. So far, I have hung the floor pickup on the machine using a length of housed 10/3 electrical wire. It works somewhat! A hair better than the OPR system, but still leaving a lot of cleanup. I noticed that nick used no dust collection in his videos. He tried this pickup once, with disastrous results. (Someone gave him bad advice)
There is a good and a bad thing associated with this issue.
Good: The shavings from routing are large enough the there is not the problem with fine dust.
Bad: There is one hell of a lot of shavings produced.
I've tried using my "small floor pickup" attachment. This is the one that comes with the Utility Vacuum Extension" (555582). Mine came with the Drum Sander/Molder fence kit, but I didn't get a extension rod with it.. So far, I have hung the floor pickup on the machine using a length of housed 10/3 electrical wire. It works somewhat! A hair better than the OPR system, but still leaving a lot of cleanup. I noticed that nick used no dust collection in his videos. He tried this pickup once, with disastrous results. (Someone gave him bad advice)
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Chuck in Lancaster, CA
Chuck in Lancaster, CA
reible wrote:Where I use to work it took you months to learn what people were talking about... ah the old ma bell system how I miss you.
At one time I had a copy of the official bell system acronym book.
It was huge, about the size of the Chicago phone directory.
Greg
Richwood, OH
There is no such thing as an unsafe tool, only unsafe owners. If you make a machine idiot-proof, God will invent a better idiot.
There is no such thing as an unsafe tool, only unsafe owners. If you make a machine idiot-proof, God will invent a better idiot.
That book was always dumped on the new "guys" desk like you should read it and remember it... great joke! I was keeper of the book for a while until the next new "person" joined, then I got to dump it on them.
Ed
Ed
gregf wrote:At one time I had a copy of the official bell system acronym book.
It was huge, about the size of the Chicago phone directory.
Greg
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