Does anyone have a molder insert for the 10 ER? If so, Can you please post the dimensions? I want to make one.
Thanks, Tom
10 ER Molder Insert
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Re: 10 ER Molder Insert
Not sure there was one.
Early Mark 5 accessories catalog listing says to use the Dado insert (1" slot) for the Magna Moulder.
There is a drawing with dimensions for a Shaper insert in Power Tool Woodworking for Everyone.
Early Mark 5 accessories catalog listing says to use the Dado insert (1" slot) for the Magna Moulder.
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Ron Dyck
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10ER #23430, 10ER #84609, 10ER #94987,two SS A-34 jigsaws for 10ER.
1959 Mark 5 #356595 Greenie, SS Magna Jointer, SS planer, SS bandsaw, SS scroll saw (gray), DC3300,
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10ER #23430, 10ER #84609, 10ER #94987,two SS A-34 jigsaws for 10ER.
1959 Mark 5 #356595 Greenie, SS Magna Jointer, SS planer, SS bandsaw, SS scroll saw (gray), DC3300,
Re: 10 ER Molder Insert
I saw this one listed on eBay. Maybe it was shop made and not from Shopsmith.
Tom
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Re: 10 ER Molder Insert
Looks like the Dado insert, but with a shorter slot. Perhaps someone cut it from a blank insert. Here is a link to a different accessory catalog. it also says to use the Dado insert.e2512 wrote:I saw this one listed on eBay. Maybe it was shop made and not from Shopsmith.
Tom
http://vintagemachinery.org/pubs/detail.aspx?id=2715
Ron Dyck
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10ER #23430, 10ER #84609, 10ER #94987,two SS A-34 jigsaws for 10ER.
1959 Mark 5 #356595 Greenie, SS Magna Jointer, SS planer, SS bandsaw, SS scroll saw (gray), DC3300,
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10ER #23430, 10ER #84609, 10ER #94987,two SS A-34 jigsaws for 10ER.
1959 Mark 5 #356595 Greenie, SS Magna Jointer, SS planer, SS bandsaw, SS scroll saw (gray), DC3300,
Re: 10 ER Molder Insert
Just spotted this listing on Ebay, for Mark 5 Moulder insert, similar to the picture you posted. (Over priced in my opinion)
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Shopsmith-Shop ... Sw95lbBGdp
Perhaps one of these was modified to fit the 10ER, per Skip Campbell.
http://www.mkctools.com/mkvinsert10er.htm
Sorry I don't have one to measure, but could you extrapolate the the slot length from the one in the picture you posted.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Shopsmith-Shop ... Sw95lbBGdp
Perhaps one of these was modified to fit the 10ER, per Skip Campbell.
http://www.mkctools.com/mkvinsert10er.htm
Sorry I don't have one to measure, but could you extrapolate the the slot length from the one in the picture you posted.
Ron Dyck
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10ER #23430, 10ER #84609, 10ER #94987,two SS A-34 jigsaws for 10ER.
1959 Mark 5 #356595 Greenie, SS Magna Jointer, SS planer, SS bandsaw, SS scroll saw (gray), DC3300,
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10ER #23430, 10ER #84609, 10ER #94987,two SS A-34 jigsaws for 10ER.
1959 Mark 5 #356595 Greenie, SS Magna Jointer, SS planer, SS bandsaw, SS scroll saw (gray), DC3300,
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Re: 10 ER Molder Insert
From looking at the PTWFE(Model 10) plan and a M5 molder insert, the dimensions should be:
length 10"
width 3"
slot 4" x 1 1/4" centered both directions.
I leave the hold down screws for thee.
length 10"
width 3"
slot 4" x 1 1/4" centered both directions.
I leave the hold down screws for thee.
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Re: 10 ER Molder Insert
Ron,
I agree with you about the three table inserts on ebay being over priced. Buying the two Shopsmith inserts new would be just under $65 and I do not know what the one in front goes to. It looks like some other tools dado insert.
As far as using an insert for moulding on the Model 10's the dado insert will work fine. It has just a bit more open space before and after the cut. No need to get or make a custom molder insert. If you insist on making one, HogWinslow1960 on eBay makes his replacement inserts out of 1/4" thick aluminum and they are very durable. He make a blank one if you want a head start.
I agree with you about the three table inserts on ebay being over priced. Buying the two Shopsmith inserts new would be just under $65 and I do not know what the one in front goes to. It looks like some other tools dado insert.
As far as using an insert for moulding on the Model 10's the dado insert will work fine. It has just a bit more open space before and after the cut. No need to get or make a custom molder insert. If you insist on making one, HogWinslow1960 on eBay makes his replacement inserts out of 1/4" thick aluminum and they are very durable. He make a blank one if you want a head start.
Russ
Mark V completely upgraded to Mark 7
Mark V 520
All SPT's & 2 Power Stations
Model 10ER S/N R64000 first one I restored on bench w/ metal ends & retractable casters.
Has Speed Changer, 4E Jointer, Jig Saw with lamp, a complete set of original accessories & much more.
Model 10E's S/N's 1076 & 1077 oldest ones I have restored. Mark 2 S/N 85959 restored. Others to be restored.
Mark V completely upgraded to Mark 7
Mark V 520
All SPT's & 2 Power Stations
Model 10ER S/N R64000 first one I restored on bench w/ metal ends & retractable casters.
Has Speed Changer, 4E Jointer, Jig Saw with lamp, a complete set of original accessories & much more.
Model 10E's S/N's 1076 & 1077 oldest ones I have restored. Mark 2 S/N 85959 restored. Others to be restored.
Re: 10 ER Molder Insert
Russ,chapmanruss wrote:Ron,
I agree with you about the three table inserts on ebay being over priced. Buying the two Shopsmith inserts new would be just under $65 and I do not know what the one in front goes to. It looks like some other tools dado insert.
As far as using an insert for moulding on the Model 10's the dado insert will work fine. It has just a bit more open space before and after the cut. No need to get or make a custom molder insert. If you insist on making one, HogWinslow1960 on eBay makes his replacement inserts out of 1/4" thick aluminum and they are very durable. He make a blank one if you want a head start.
I picked up a couple of Mark 5 inserts, one blank and one of the shaper inserts with the stepped hole, never used still in their original boxes, last year. The seller was also in Canada and I got the two of them for just under CDN$30 including shipping. Some day I'll cut them down to fit the 10ER.
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so I expect he will be adding a Moulder insert to his line soon. 
Ron Dyck
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10ER #23430, 10ER #84609, 10ER #94987,two SS A-34 jigsaws for 10ER.
1959 Mark 5 #356595 Greenie, SS Magna Jointer, SS planer, SS bandsaw, SS scroll saw (gray), DC3300,
==================================================================
10ER #23430, 10ER #84609, 10ER #94987,two SS A-34 jigsaws for 10ER.
1959 Mark 5 #356595 Greenie, SS Magna Jointer, SS planer, SS bandsaw, SS scroll saw (gray), DC3300,
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Re: 10 ER Molder Insert
Ron said
Hi Tom,
It's been a long while since we have spoken. The bearings you changed to still work great and are a good alternative for those who can't get the original Fafnir bearings.
I have both a Dado and a Molder insert for the Model 510/520/M7 tables and the molder slot is 4-1/4" long by 1-1/4" wide centered in the plate width and over the spindle. That is slightly wider than the Dado insert's slot and slightly longer than JPG quoted.
Tom, I hope that helps.
I did not catch that. Thanks, RonNote that the original poster Tom, e2512, is HogWinslow,
Hi Tom,
It's been a long while since we have spoken. The bearings you changed to still work great and are a good alternative for those who can't get the original Fafnir bearings.
I have both a Dado and a Molder insert for the Model 510/520/M7 tables and the molder slot is 4-1/4" long by 1-1/4" wide centered in the plate width and over the spindle. That is slightly wider than the Dado insert's slot and slightly longer than JPG quoted.
Tom, I hope that helps.
Russ
Mark V completely upgraded to Mark 7
Mark V 520
All SPT's & 2 Power Stations
Model 10ER S/N R64000 first one I restored on bench w/ metal ends & retractable casters.
Has Speed Changer, 4E Jointer, Jig Saw with lamp, a complete set of original accessories & much more.
Model 10E's S/N's 1076 & 1077 oldest ones I have restored. Mark 2 S/N 85959 restored. Others to be restored.
Mark V completely upgraded to Mark 7
Mark V 520
All SPT's & 2 Power Stations
Model 10ER S/N R64000 first one I restored on bench w/ metal ends & retractable casters.
Has Speed Changer, 4E Jointer, Jig Saw with lamp, a complete set of original accessories & much more.
Model 10E's S/N's 1076 & 1077 oldest ones I have restored. Mark 2 S/N 85959 restored. Others to be restored.
Re: 10 ER Molder Insert
Thanks for the dimensions Russ.
The NTN Bearings I sell have worked out great. I've sold them for a few years now and haven't gotten a complaint yet. That's why I started selling them for the newer models of Shopsmiths. Customers asked for them, so I added them to the line.
I don't know if I'll sell the molder insert. I've never been asked for one so I have to figure there's no demand. Then again, when I get bored in the shop there's no telling what will happen.
Thanks to all posters, Tom
The NTN Bearings I sell have worked out great. I've sold them for a few years now and haven't gotten a complaint yet. That's why I started selling them for the newer models of Shopsmiths. Customers asked for them, so I added them to the line.
I don't know if I'll sell the molder insert. I've never been asked for one so I have to figure there's no demand. Then again, when I get bored in the shop there's no telling what will happen.
Thanks to all posters, Tom