jsburger wrote:Not that I know. Burs are not a problem nor are set screw dimples. The burs can be removed and the dimples don't affect anything normally. Just try and rotate the collar back and forth and pull on the shaft. That will wear down the bur. and then the collar can be pulled off. The bur is on the shaft so once you get the collar past the bur it will not damage the shaft. Then the bur can be filed down and the shaft cleaned and polished.
Alrighty then. A little gentle persuasion with a rubber mallet got the shaft moving enough till the burr cleared the collar. Got he pinion shaft out, but then couldn't get the quill out. I had to put the pinion shaft back in and put the handle back on to get the quill moving. It's all out now, and not looking too bad. Mostly just appear to be gummed up with grease. And the spring housing and spring are packed full of saw dust. So I suspect a little cleaning and lubricating will get these moving better.
For lubrication here, do I use machine oil of Johnson's paste wax?
Quill and pinion shaft
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jsburger wrote:Not that I know. Burs are not a problem nor are set screw dimples. The burs can be removed and the dimples don't affect anything normally. Just try and rotate the collar back and forth and pull on the shaft. That will wear down the bur. and then the collar can be pulled off. The bur is on the shaft so once you get the collar past the bur it will not damage the shaft. Then the bur can be filed down and the shaft cleaned and polished.
Alrighty then. A little gentle persuasion with a rubber mallet got the shaft moving enough till the burr cleared the collar. Got he pinion shaft out, but then couldn't get the quill out. I had to put the pinion shaft back in and put the handle back on to get the quill moving. It's all out now, and not looking too bad. Mostly just appear to be gummed up with grease. And the spring housing and spring are packed full of saw dust. So I suspect a little cleaning and lubricating will get these moving better.
For lubrication here, do I use machine oil of Johnson's paste wax?
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The grease is probably why it was gummed up. Johnson's paste wax is what you want to use. Absolutely no grease or oil on anything.
John & Mary Burger
Eagle's Lair Woodshop
Hooper, UT
jsburger wrote:The grease is probably why it was gummed up. Johnson's paste wax is what you want to use. Absolutely no grease or oil on anything.
Yep. I need to pick up some paste wax and some evaporust...
Now onto the drive sleeve. Looks like I'm going to need some penetrating oil. I loosened the setscrew, but nothing is moving. All I have at the moment is WD-40, so I suppose I'll give that a try.
Make sure there are not two set screws 90 degrees apart!
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Chriss wrote:I did check for that but didn't see a second one. Any chance there is one covered in putty hiding?
Not that I know of.
Acupucky maybe! Translation crud.
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jsburger wrote:The grease is probably why it was gummed up. Johnson's paste wax is what you want to use. Absolutely no grease or oil on anything.
Yep. I need to pick up some paste wax and some evaporust...
Now onto the drive sleeve. Looks like I'm going to need some penetrating oil. I loosened the setscrew, but nothing is moving. All I have at the moment is WD-40, so I suppose I'll give that a try.
The drive sleeve should be a slip fit in the headstock, but when I took mine out I had to put a large wood dowel in from the quill end and tap it out with a hammer. Some one had put a sticky tar like substance on it and that resisted removal. If yours has that as well a bit of heat might help to soften it up.
I believe there is only one set screw, but the bolt that hold the upper pulley guard may also bear on the drive sleeve.
Ron Dyck
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10ER #23430, 10ER #84609, 10ER #94987,two SS A-34 jigsaws for 10ER.
1959 Mark 5 #356595 Greenie, SS Magna Jointer, SS planer, SS bandsaw, SS scroll saw (gray), DC3300,
jsburger wrote:Not that I know. Burs are not a problem nor are set screw dimples. The burs can be removed and the dimples don't affect anything normally. Just try and rotate the collar back and forth and pull on the shaft. That will wear down the bur. and then the collar can be pulled off. The bur is on the shaft so once you get the collar past the bur it will not damage the shaft. Then the bur can be filed down and the shaft cleaned and polished.
Alrighty then. A little gentle persuasion with a rubber mallet got the shaft moving enough till the burr cleared the collar. Got he pinion shaft out, but then couldn't get the quill out. I had to put the pinion shaft back in and put the handle back on to get the quill moving. It's all out now, and not looking too bad. Mostly just appear to be gummed up with grease. And the spring housing and spring are packed full of saw dust. So I suspect a little cleaning and lubricating will get these moving better.
For lubrication here, do I use machine oil of Johnson's paste wax?
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20190216_162837.jpg
The grease is probably why it was gummed up. Johnson's paste wax is what you want to use. Absolutely no grease or oil on anything.
The manual does say to put a small amount of grease on the splines to reduce or eliminate chatter.
Ron Dyck
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10ER #23430, 10ER #84609, 10ER #94987,two SS A-34 jigsaws for 10ER.
1959 Mark 5 #356595 Greenie, SS Magna Jointer, SS planer, SS bandsaw, SS scroll saw (gray), DC3300,
rpd wrote:The drive sleeve should be a slip fit in the headstock, but when I took mine out I had to put a large wood dowel in from the quill end and tap it out with a hammer. Some one had put a sticky tar like substance on it and that resisted removal. If yours has that as well a bit of heat might help to soften it up.
I believe there is only one set screw, but the bolt that hold the upper pulley guard may also bear on the drive sleeve.
I had the pulley guard bolt pulled out, so that wasn't interfering. I just got it out using a large dowel like you said and some tapping with a rubber mallet. It all appears to have some thick sticky brown grease on it just as my pinion and quill do.
Everything is out now, so I guess it's time to start cleaning it all.
jsburger wrote:
The grease is probably why it was gummed up. Johnson's paste wax is what you want to use. Absolutely no grease or oil on anything.
After some time away from this working on other projects, I'm getting back to cleaning these parts up. What is best to use for degreasing all these parts?
Translation crud. 
