Speed control clip?
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Speed control clip?
I'm rebuilding a Shopsmith I bought in a box. The speed control is a bit mucked up from the speed control pullies becoming frozen to the shaft from linseed oil based lubes (red 3-in-1 is bad for your SS!).
The little clip that secures the speed control shaft into the speed control housing was destroyed. Is there a reasonable substitute? I'm headed to the hardware store after work to check the little white draws to see what they might have.
The little clip that secures the speed control shaft into the speed control housing was destroyed. Is there a reasonable substitute? I'm headed to the hardware store after work to check the little white draws to see what they might have.
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Re: Speed control clip?
A C clip should work(some folks call them "E" clips).
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Re: Speed control clip?
C Clip VS E Clip. Both should work.JPG wrote:A C clip should work(some folks call them "E" clips).
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John & Mary Burger
Eagle's Lair Woodshop
Hooper, UT
Eagle's Lair Woodshop
Hooper, UT
Re: Speed control clip?
Thanks!
I looked at the exploded view, looks like there's a spring washer and regular washer under the retaining clip. There's even part numbers but I think I can cob together a solution at the local Ace in the little white drawer section.
I looked at the exploded view, looks like there's a spring washer and regular washer under the retaining clip. There's even part numbers but I think I can cob together a solution at the local Ace in the little white drawer section.
1986 510, jointer, bandsaw, belt sander, scroll saw, jigsaw and lots of accessories. Shopsmith woodworking bench too!
Re: Speed control clip?
What is the name for the retaining ring with the ears for a pin tool?jsburger wrote:C Clip VS E Clip. Both should work.JPG wrote:A C clip should work(some folks call them "E" clips).
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Re: Speed control clip?
Internal or external retaining ring. Where the holes are located for the retaining pliers determine if it is an internal or external retaining ring.P89DC wrote:What is the name for the retaining ring with the ears for a pin tool?jsburger wrote:C Clip VS E Clip. Both should work.JPG wrote:A C clip should work(some folks call them "E" clips).
Brenda
1998 510 upgraded to a 520, upgraded to power pro with double tilt and lift assist.
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1998 510 upgraded to a 520, upgraded to power pro with double tilt and lift assist.
1998 bandsaw
2016 beltsander
jointer
overarm pin router
Re: Speed control clip?
Circlip or snap ring, they come in interior and exterior versionsP89DC wrote:What is the name for the retaining ring with the ears for a pin tool?jsburger wrote:C Clip VS E Clip. Both should work.JPG wrote:A C clip should work(some folks call them "E" clips).
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10ER #23430, 10ER #84609, 10ER #94987,two SS A-34 jigsaws for 10ER.
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10ER #23430, 10ER #84609, 10ER #94987,two SS A-34 jigsaws for 10ER.
1959 Mark 5 #356595 Greenie, SS Magna Jointer, SS planer, SS bandsaw, SS scroll saw (gray), DC3300,
Re: Speed control clip?
Ok, so when the Shopsmith diagram calls it a "retaining ring" it should have ears?
And if it's called out as a "retaining clip" then its an E clip or C clip?
And if it's called out as a "retaining clip" then its an E clip or C clip?
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Re: Speed control clip?
You are assuming knowledge and consistency over the past ≈70 years.P89DC wrote:Ok, so when the Shopsmith diagram calls it a "retaining ring" it should have ears?
And if it's called out as a "retaining clip" then its an E clip or C clip?
Simply ain't so.(especially lately)
Internal/external? Oh if only they would say.
Also do not expect to get accurate clues off the drawings.
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Re: Speed control clip?
Follow what JPG said above. All those types of clips and more have been used. It depends on the application as to which one works best. Without removing the Speed Control Handle on my original headstock I believe it uses an "E" clip to hold the Worm Gear in and someone will correct me if I am wrong. The "E" clip gives a larger diameter surface against, in this case, the washers to hold the Worm Gear in place as opposed to using a "C" clip or External Retaining Ring. A "C" clip is used, for example, in the carriage table raising parts where it is on the square shaft but goes inside the end of the Pinion Gear so it needs some external clearance. In this case the "C" clip is thicker/wider than standard "C" clips. You have already seen two uses for the External Retaining Rings when you found the place for it on the Drive Sleeve. Some of the clips/rings used can be purchased at your local hardware store but others like the "C" clip used in the carriage are a specialty item.P89DC wrote:Ok, so when the Shopsmith diagram calls it a "retaining ring" it should have ears?
And if it's called out as a "retaining clip" then its an E clip or C clip?
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Has Speed Changer, 4E Jointer, Jig Saw with lamp, a complete set of original accessories & much more.
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Mark V completely upgraded to Mark 7
Mark V 520
All SPT's, 2 Power Stations & Crafter's Station
Model 10ER S/N R64000 first one I restored on bench w/ metal ends & retractable casters.
Has Speed Changer, 4E Jointer, Jig Saw with lamp, a complete set of original accessories & much more.
Model 10E's S/N's 1076 & 1077 oldest ones I have restored. Mark 2 S/N 85959 restored.