The occasional e-auction win from Mis-spelling
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The occasional e-auction win from Mis-spelling
Happy 2021 !
I have an occasional penchant for restoring machinist chests, but they aren't cheap.
The last one wasn't a Union or a Gerstner, but a Black & Decker valve-grinding outfit that I re-purposed. That was enough off the usual "search terms" to be cheaper than a Gerstner by a lot. But even those can be in some demand....
I have a mini-gloat today because I associated Black & Decker valve grinders with similar "Van Dorn" offerings, and someone had listed one as "Van Dom," for cheap dough. So that one is ordered! It will be an upcoming project.
Happy woodworking,
Chris
I have an occasional penchant for restoring machinist chests, but they aren't cheap.
The last one wasn't a Union or a Gerstner, but a Black & Decker valve-grinding outfit that I re-purposed. That was enough off the usual "search terms" to be cheaper than a Gerstner by a lot. But even those can be in some demand....
I have a mini-gloat today because I associated Black & Decker valve grinders with similar "Van Dorn" offerings, and someone had listed one as "Van Dom," for cheap dough. So that one is ordered! It will be an upcoming project.
Happy woodworking,
Chris
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Well,
I got in the latest box and I was almost in despair. Wood was very warped and grimy, especially on the top.
HOWEVER, I've now got the notion to re-configure the whole thing upside down. With the absence of the central grinder, it may visually look better with the drawers at the bottom anyway!
Triage and inversion and planing underway....
Chris
I got in the latest box and I was almost in despair. Wood was very warped and grimy, especially on the top.
HOWEVER, I've now got the notion to re-configure the whole thing upside down. With the absence of the central grinder, it may visually look better with the drawers at the bottom anyway!
Triage and inversion and planing underway....
Chris
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Re: The occasional e-auction win from Mis-spelling
I'm always amazed at how good these old boxes look when you finish restoring them!
I'm also curious. I know the end result wouldn't be the same, but would you say it's easier to restore them, or to build replicas?
I'm also curious. I know the end result wouldn't be the same, but would you say it's easier to restore them, or to build replicas?
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Hi Dennis,
Thanks! Regarding your question, I would say if I'm not in the multiple-volume production mode, it's easier to restore old boxes. Particularly with regard to box/finger joints and stopped grooves, they would be a hassle to make from scratch in a one-off fashion.
There are also a lot of "dopamine hits" when working on these old things. There's the puzzle-solving aspect, the warm surprises when things start to look good again, etc.
While this Van Dorn is mostly plainsawn oak, the upscale boxes from Gerstner are a case study in fine quartersawn wood, and they do wonderful tricks like using a (split) common plank to serve as both part of the (fixed) upper till and the (hinged) top cover.
We'll see what comes next!
Chris
Thanks! Regarding your question, I would say if I'm not in the multiple-volume production mode, it's easier to restore old boxes. Particularly with regard to box/finger joints and stopped grooves, they would be a hassle to make from scratch in a one-off fashion.
There are also a lot of "dopamine hits" when working on these old things. There's the puzzle-solving aspect, the warm surprises when things start to look good again, etc.
While this Van Dorn is mostly plainsawn oak, the upscale boxes from Gerstner are a case study in fine quartersawn wood, and they do wonderful tricks like using a (split) common plank to serve as both part of the (fixed) upper till and the (hinged) top cover.
We'll see what comes next!
Chris
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Speaking of Gerstner boxes, I have a rather unusual one that was literally the “goody box” that came with a 10ER. It’s long enough to hold 24” scales, and it came stuffed with high-end vintage tools and instruments, includung both 12” and 24” stretch rules. It had a patternmaker’s business card in it, so I presume that he was the original owner.
It’s still quite solid, but unfortunately is of the leatherette-covered variety, which is now peeling loose in places. Do you know if it could be restored as an unskinned wooden box? I’m not particularly interested in reskinning it in the leatherette stuff.
It’s still quite solid, but unfortunately is of the leatherette-covered variety, which is now peeling loose in places. Do you know if it could be restored as an unskinned wooden box? I’m not particularly interested in reskinning it in the leatherette stuff.
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Dennis, I had read on the Gerstner forum that the company used much plainer-looking wood types on the leatherette boxes, so peeling the skins isn't recommended. Potentially a good point is that they used hide-glue, and supposedly new hide glue can stick to old hide glue. Some guys have also hit on certain paints or waxes that can make the leatherette look fresh again. P.S. that particular forum changed host software several times, so I've fallen off for a spell
Chris
Chris
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I have been able to do more disassembly, planing, and a tad of (oxy) bleaching work. It's coming along.
I found the Makers Mark: American Novelty Works, Herndon, PA, which likely made this box sometime after 1946.
As with the other valve-grinder chests, I'd like to keep the basic drawer walls with their nice finger joints, but discard the filthy tool-holder blocks from their innards.
Happy woodworking!
Chris
I found the Makers Mark: American Novelty Works, Herndon, PA, which likely made this box sometime after 1946.
As with the other valve-grinder chests, I'd like to keep the basic drawer walls with their nice finger joints, but discard the filthy tool-holder blocks from their innards.
Happy woodworking!
Chris
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I have decided to resaw & rabbet some old wormy reclaimed chestnut... let's see where this goes!
Have a great week!
Chris
Have a great week!
Chris
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I'm done with this one.... Really it was more cosmetically stubborn than the ones I've done before.
The fall-front door I decided not to replace (yet, anyway), since the new placement of the drawers at the bottom of the chest (inverted from the original top-drawer setup) doesn't work too well with a hinged door lying there. You can still seen the "Van Dorn" [grinder] logo on the old front cover.
Anyway, here we go!
Thanks for watching.
Chris
The fall-front door I decided not to replace (yet, anyway), since the new placement of the drawers at the bottom of the chest (inverted from the original top-drawer setup) doesn't work too well with a hinged door lying there. You can still seen the "Van Dorn" [grinder] logo on the old front cover.
Anyway, here we go!
Thanks for watching.
Chris
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Nice job, looks like a fun project .
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