New Shopsmith DC-6000 Dust Collector

[JPG]

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Shame on Shopsmith's engineering department.

I am more inclined to blame marketing or management.

[DLB]

It might not appear to be unique but if you can buy a new one only from Shopsmith...I consider it unique.

Since you have a motor, could you tell me the part number? Not 515690 but rather a manufacturers part number.

Yes, Emerson Model C55EJL-2808-A. I don't see any currently listed, but a used one sold recently on ebay for $125. It included a few other DC-3300 bits, including a switch and power cord.

- David

[shopsmithpaul]

That is the way I am looking at it. I would like it to be a DC-6000 after upgrading. Unfortunately the lack of clarity has pushed my purchase past the special offer they had.

[JPG]

That is the way I am looking at it. I would like it to be a DC-6000 after upgrading. Unfortunately the lack of clarity has pushed my purchase past the special offer they had.

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[algale]

I guess my questions were not clear enough. I sent an email response this morning for more clarification. I will post when I hear something back.

Your question was plenty clear. The original answer was not clear and I maintain deliberately so.

[beeg]

SS sells the DC6000. WHY wood they make an upgrade to the DC330 to equal the DC6000?

[algale]

SS sells the DC6000. WHY wood they make an upgrade to the DC330 to equal the DC6000?

They already sell an upgrade to make the Mark V 500 a 510 and a 510 a 520 and a 520 a Mark 7. So why not?

[DLB]

SS sells the DC6000. WHY wood they make an upgrade to the DC330 to equal the DC6000?

They already sell an upgrade to make the Mark V 500 a 510 and a 510 a 520 and a 520 a Mark 7. So why not?

I think they would make an upgrade to the DC-3300 because it would sell. I see several people in this thread expressing strong interest in an upgrade. Speaking only for myself, I have no interest in a new DC-6000 at the current price and strong interest in an upgrade in the $300 range. It is not about money, but about how I view the DC-6000 against the competition (unfavorably). So it is not 'why would they sell me an upgrade for $300 when they can sell me a new unit for $700.' Because they can't. The market potential for DC-3300 upgrades might be 20X the market potential for DC-6000's, at least that would be my guess. They have marketing guys with their own guesses.

As Al says, it is the same thing as a Mark. There is big money in upgrades, and this is kind of SS's niche. I bought the two upgrades to get from 520 to M7, but I doubt I would have ever sprung for a new M7. Because it is $2K better and it ain't $4K better, as seen by this buyer. Same principle here.

- David

[RFGuy]

I think they would make an upgrade to the DC-3300 because it would sell. I see several people in this thread expressing strong interest in an upgrade. Speaking only for myself, I have no interest in a new DC-6000 at the current price and strong interest in an upgrade in the $300 range. It is not about money, but about how I view the DC-6000 against the competition (unfavorably). So it is not 'why would they sell me an upgrade for $300 when they can sell me a new unit for $700.' Because they can't. The market potential for DC-3300 upgrades might be 20X the market potential for DC-6000's, at least that would be my guess. They have marketing guys with their own guesses.

As Al says, it is the same thing as a Mark. There is big money in upgrades, and this is kind of SS's niche. I bought the two upgrades to get from 520 to M7, but I doubt I would have ever sprung for a new M7. Because it is $2K better and it ain't $4K better, as seen by this buyer. Same principle here.

- David

Kind of hard to justify a DC-6000 for $739 when you can get a Harbor Freight DC for around $160 (with coupons) that has better performance. However to Bob's point I can see how they don't want to cannibalize potential customers for it by offering a lower cost upgrade path for customers with a DC-3300 upgrade. That is why I assumed the DC-3300 upgrade likely has less than 600CFM airflow, but that is just an assumption since Shopsmith doesn't give us full specs and details.

[JPG]

I have come to the conclusion that some form of idiocy has taken over the management of RLF.... TO offer a "motor upgrade" that includes a more powerful motor but does not appreciably improve performance is ludicriuos at best and dishonest(misleading) at worst.

I have to agree with Al.

All previous "upgrades" have created equality with the thing upgraded to. This deceitful offering is a sham. Somebody new have this brain fart or has dementia set in at Dayton?

I am VERY disappointed by this!