I removed myself from all Shopsmith Facebook Groups
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Re: I removed myself from all Shopsmith Facebook Groups
My conjecture would be they joined out of curiosity and once "in" they determined there was nothing here for them.
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Re: I removed myself from all Shopsmith Facebook Groups
--------------------------dusty wrote: ↑Sun Jun 12, 2022 6:18 pmThe new members who post spam can be dealt with. It is the new member who joins (gains access to the forum) and then seems to disappear into nowhere that concern me. Why are they here and what are they up to? What data are they collecting and what might they do with it when they have it?
I think it was Elon Musk who just said every one should delete their IP address .
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Re: I removed myself from all Shopsmith Facebook Groups
Dusty,dusty wrote: ↑Sun Jun 12, 2022 6:11 pm Yeah, I looked at the data but I don't view most of it as applicable for discussion when we are talking about generational users of woodworking equipment. Besides, it is data presented by "social media" for the benefit of "social media". Yes, there are other more popular sites but I don't use any of them.
You are always complaining that forum members offer opinions here and don't back it up with actual data. I wasn't offering my opinion on this thread, but sharing what I have read in countless news articles that also reference real world data that indicates FB has lost the younger generation. In fact, it is one of the factors behind declining revenues at FB. The data that I referenced is from a company called Statista which is a well respected data aggregator business that sells their data to other companies for market analysis purposes. The sources for their data typically include market research, trade publications, scientific journals and government databases. You may not like the data that I presented, but the data is real and didn't come from some "social media" company. Bottomline is I presented facts backed up by actual data - it wasn't my opinion.
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Porter Cable 12" Compound Miter Saw | Rikon 8" Low Speed Bench Grinder w/CBN wheels | Jessem Clear-Cut TS™ Stock Guides
Festool (Emerald): DF 500 Q | RO 150 FEQ | OF 1400 EQ | TS 55 REQ | CT 26 E
DC3300 | Shopvac w/ClearVue CV06 Mini Cyclone | JDS AirTech 2000 | Sundstrom PAPR | Dylos DC1100 Pro particulate monitor
Re: I removed myself from all Shopsmith Facebook Groups
My anecdotal observations about FB have been that only a few young people we know use FB ("young", meaning late-20's). Everyone else we know who uses FB is our age (mid-50's) and older. When the kids were younger, it seems like all the people we knew were on FB and it was used for everything (sports, activities, school events, etc). So much so that my wife and I often got the "what do you mean you're not on FB??!!" response when we would say we don't have a FB account. Nowadays, I can't remember the last time I heard FB mentioned except by a friend of mine who uses it for his business.
Re: I removed myself from all Shopsmith Facebook Groups
I couldn't agree more and this matches my own anecdotal experience. I am the oddball in my family because I refuse to use FB. I have borrowed my Dad's account a couple of dozen times to check out the Shopsmith groups. IF it wasn't for that, I would have no first hand experience with it. All social media is used to sell products so I choose not to feed on the firehose of marketing BS from them since they are an ad revenue business model. Also, why I don't watch TV with commercials anymore...One of the biggest complaints that I have with social media is their employment of engagement based ranking algorithms. These force viral content to the top of your feed so it is all a popularity contest which leads to mob rule. JMO.RCZ wrote: ↑Mon Jun 13, 2022 1:01 pm My anecdotal observations about FB have been that only a few young people we know use FB ("young", meaning late-20's). Everyone else we know who uses FB is our age (mid-50's) and older. When the kids were younger, it seems like all the people we knew were on FB and it was used for everything (sports, activities, school events, etc). So much so that my wife and I often got the "what do you mean you're not on FB??!!" response when we would say we don't have a FB account. Nowadays, I can't remember the last time I heard FB mentioned except by a friend of mine who uses it for his business.
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Mark V 520 (Bought New '98) | 4" jointer | 6" beltsander | 12" planer | bandsaw | router table | speed reducer | univ. tool rest
Porter Cable 12" Compound Miter Saw | Rikon 8" Low Speed Bench Grinder w/CBN wheels | Jessem Clear-Cut TS™ Stock Guides
Festool (Emerald): DF 500 Q | RO 150 FEQ | OF 1400 EQ | TS 55 REQ | CT 26 E
DC3300 | Shopvac w/ClearVue CV06 Mini Cyclone | JDS AirTech 2000 | Sundstrom PAPR | Dylos DC1100 Pro particulate monitor
Mark V 520 (Bought New '98) | 4" jointer | 6" beltsander | 12" planer | bandsaw | router table | speed reducer | univ. tool rest
Porter Cable 12" Compound Miter Saw | Rikon 8" Low Speed Bench Grinder w/CBN wheels | Jessem Clear-Cut TS™ Stock Guides
Festool (Emerald): DF 500 Q | RO 150 FEQ | OF 1400 EQ | TS 55 REQ | CT 26 E
DC3300 | Shopvac w/ClearVue CV06 Mini Cyclone | JDS AirTech 2000 | Sundstrom PAPR | Dylos DC1100 Pro particulate monitor
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Re: I removed myself from all Shopsmith Facebook Groups
Quite the opposite! I welcome opinion as long as it is offered as such. It is ones opinion stated as "fact" that makes my skin crawl.RFGuy wrote: ↑Mon Jun 13, 2022 11:46 amDusty,dusty wrote: ↑Sun Jun 12, 2022 6:11 pm Yeah, I looked at the data but I don't view most of it as applicable for discussion when we are talking about generational users of woodworking equipment. Besides, it is data presented by "social media" for the benefit of "social media". Yes, there are other more popular sites but I don't use any of them.
You are always complaining that forum members offer opinions here and don't back it up with actual data. I wasn't offering my opinion on this thread, but sharing what I have read in countless news articles that also reference real world data that indicates FB has lost the younger generation. In fact, it is one of the factors behind declining revenues at FB. The data that I referenced is from a company called Statista which is a well respected data aggregator business that sells their data to other companies for market analysis purposes. The sources for their data typically include market research, trade publications, scientific journals and government databases. You may not like the data that I presented, but the data is real and didn't come from some "social media" company. Bottomline is I presented facts backed up by actual data - it wasn't my opinion.
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