That could be, i stuck it in a bin to see if i need it later.
Help. What Are These Parts That Came With My SS 10E?
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Re: Help. What Are These Parts That Came With My SS 10E?
Joel Gardner
1948 SS 10E #1143
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Re: Help. What Are These Parts That Came With My SS 10E?
I am a little late commenting here since I was on vacation and returned home yesterday. Vacation also includes no computer.
Just a couple things I wanted to add. John mentioned the Manual is available on Everett's google drive through Shopsmith Large Format Drawings, Illustrations and More. Joel you should use the Completed Magna Model 10E Restored Owner's Manual and not the Preliminary MAGNA Shopsmith Manual Restored which came with those original 250 tools. Good job using the Extension Pins (P/N 109-2) and the Wing Nuts (P/N 109-3) to attach the Fence to the wood Extension Table. The Washers that were on the one Extension Pin #11 are not used with it or the other Shopsmith OEM parts. The Arbors 5 & 6 are the later ones for the Model 10's and 6 is missing the nut and two machined washers.
Just a couple things I wanted to add. John mentioned the Manual is available on Everett's google drive through Shopsmith Large Format Drawings, Illustrations and More. Joel you should use the Completed Magna Model 10E Restored Owner's Manual and not the Preliminary MAGNA Shopsmith Manual Restored which came with those original 250 tools. Good job using the Extension Pins (P/N 109-2) and the Wing Nuts (P/N 109-3) to attach the Fence to the wood Extension Table. The Washers that were on the one Extension Pin #11 are not used with it or the other Shopsmith OEM parts. The Arbors 5 & 6 are the later ones for the Model 10's and 6 is missing the nut and two machined washers.
Russ
Mark V completely upgraded to Mark 7
Mark V 520
All SPT's & 2 Power Stations
Model 10ER S/N R64000 first one I restored on bench w/ metal ends & retractable casters.
Has Speed Changer, 4E Jointer, Jig Saw with lamp, a complete set of original accessories & much more.
Model 10E's S/N's 1076 & 1077 oldest ones I have restored. Mark 2 S/N 85959 restored. Others to be restored.
Mark V completely upgraded to Mark 7
Mark V 520
All SPT's & 2 Power Stations
Model 10ER S/N R64000 first one I restored on bench w/ metal ends & retractable casters.
Has Speed Changer, 4E Jointer, Jig Saw with lamp, a complete set of original accessories & much more.
Model 10E's S/N's 1076 & 1077 oldest ones I have restored. Mark 2 S/N 85959 restored. Others to be restored.
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Re: Help. What Are These Parts That Came With My SS 10E?
Thanks Russ, that all makes sense, and the documentation on Everett's drive are a fantastic resource.chapmanruss wrote: ↑Wed Jul 27, 2022 2:17 pm I am a little late commenting here since I was on vacation and returned home yesterday. Vacation also includes no computer.
Just a couple things I wanted to add. John mentioned the Manual is available on Everett's google drive through Shopsmith Large Format Drawings, Illustrations and More. Joel you should use the Completed Magna Model 10E Restored Owner's Manual and not the Preliminary MAGNA Shopsmith Manual Restored which came with those original 250 tools. Good job using the Extension Pins (P/N 109-2) and the Wing Nuts (P/N 109-3) to attach the Fence to the wood Extension Table. The Washers that were on the one Extension Pin #11 are not used with it or the other Shopsmith OEM parts. The Arbors 5 & 6 are the later ones for the Model 10's and 6 is missing the nut and two machined washers.
I am.99.9% done with the rebuild now and everything is working great, i did my first test run last night with an old pine 4x4 i had laying around. Very satisfying to see this thing come back to working order.
I am also happy with the new paint job, but i went completely modern so it is bound to anger a few people on here. I am finishing the SS emblem and I will post pictures.
Joel Gardner
1948 SS 10E #1143
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Re: Help. What Are These Parts That Came With My SS 10E?
So if i am understanding you - this machine came from the east factory and was not part of the original 250 for Wards since those would be 10s, not 10Es?chapmanruss wrote: ↑Wed Jul 27, 2022 2:17 pm Joel you should use the Completed Magna Model 10E Restored Owner's Manual and not the Preliminary MAGNA Shopsmith Manual Restored which came with those original 250 tools.
Do you know if the east factory also started with #1000 making mine #143 off the line there?
Joel Gardner
1948 SS 10E #1143
1948 SS 10E #1143
Re: Help. What Are These Parts That Came With My SS 10E?
I hope no one objects to you straying from the vibrant and exhilarating gray.joelgardner wrote: ↑Mon Aug 01, 2022 2:36 pm I am also happy with the new paint job, but i went completely modern so it is bound to anger a few people on here.
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Re: Help. What Are These Parts That Came With My SS 10E?
I suppose I'll be disappointed if no one is offended
The badge is painted now too, just needs touchup.
Joel Gardner
1948 SS 10E #1143
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Re: Help. What Are These Parts That Came With My SS 10E?
How can i tell if this is the original extension table?
The plywood is antique, but i am not sure if it is 1948 antique.
The plywood is antique, but i am not sure if it is 1948 antique.
Joel Gardner
1948 SS 10E #1143
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Re: Help. What Are These Parts That Came With My SS 10E?
Joe,
It is correct that serial numbers with the E prefix like yours came from the Eastern Plant. Yours at E1143 is the lowest I have knowledge of but on Skip Campbells survey list there is an E1032. It is possible that the Eastern Plant Serial Numbers started at 1001 too. What is unknown is at what serial number the Western Plant was at when the Eastern Plant began production. As I mentioned previously yours has the second version of the Headstock. The first production models starting at 1001 (no prefix) are Model 10E's. There were some pre-production units that varied somewhat from the first production units which were used in the factory and I believe at least one is still in use. Since I live in Oregon the Model 10E's and 10ER's I see were mostly made in the Western Plant.
It is correct that serial numbers with the E prefix like yours came from the Eastern Plant. Yours at E1143 is the lowest I have knowledge of but on Skip Campbells survey list there is an E1032. It is possible that the Eastern Plant Serial Numbers started at 1001 too. What is unknown is at what serial number the Western Plant was at when the Eastern Plant began production. As I mentioned previously yours has the second version of the Headstock. The first production models starting at 1001 (no prefix) are Model 10E's. There were some pre-production units that varied somewhat from the first production units which were used in the factory and I believe at least one is still in use. Since I live in Oregon the Model 10E's and 10ER's I see were mostly made in the Western Plant.
Russ
Mark V completely upgraded to Mark 7
Mark V 520
All SPT's & 2 Power Stations
Model 10ER S/N R64000 first one I restored on bench w/ metal ends & retractable casters.
Has Speed Changer, 4E Jointer, Jig Saw with lamp, a complete set of original accessories & much more.
Model 10E's S/N's 1076 & 1077 oldest ones I have restored. Mark 2 S/N 85959 restored. Others to be restored.
Mark V completely upgraded to Mark 7
Mark V 520
All SPT's & 2 Power Stations
Model 10ER S/N R64000 first one I restored on bench w/ metal ends & retractable casters.
Has Speed Changer, 4E Jointer, Jig Saw with lamp, a complete set of original accessories & much more.
Model 10E's S/N's 1076 & 1077 oldest ones I have restored. Mark 2 S/N 85959 restored. Others to be restored.
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Re: Help. What Are These Parts That Came With My SS 10E?
Your plywood extension table looks identical to my 10E. (except for the weathered part)
P.S. Your miter gauge looks third party.
P.S. Your miter gauge looks third party.
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Re: Help. What Are These Parts That Came With My SS 10E?
My recollection is they were dark Blue, not gray.edma194 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 01, 2022 4:12 pmI hope no one objects to you straying from the vibrant and exhilarating gray.joelgardner wrote: ↑Mon Aug 01, 2022 2:36 pm I am also happy with the new paint job, but i went completely modern so it is bound to anger a few people on here.
Yes I was exposed to them back then.(early 50's)
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