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JCorr1975
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Another 10ER reborn into this filthy world.

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Ok, I think I have found the right place for this kinda thread. Wanted to document my poor choices on this rebuild for future generations to understand how cavemen such as myself went about trying to save a shopsmith from certain death. Saw this pop up on Facebook marketplace for 150.00 and talked him down to 100.00. Came with a few of the basics and even a bandsaw which I was super excited to use and then quickly learned many doohickeys and adapters would need procured for that to work. So, Mark V bandsaw, you’ll have to wait. Patience grasshopper. Also had a speed changer that seemed to be welded to the rusty waytubes by the fires of Satan himself. Of course I was obliged to do my best Joe Dirt “That’ll buff out” impression. May the gods have mercy on me. Here I go.
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It’s a beauty! Or at least it will be, if your restoration skills are any match for your
English phraseology skills. :cool:

Should you need inspiration, just check out what the legendary MickyD did with an absolute basket case.

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BuckeyeDennis wrote: Fri Aug 05, 2022 11:12 pm It’s a beauty! Or at least it will be, if your restoration skills are any match for your
English phraseology skills. :cool:

Should you need inspiration, just check out what the legendary MickyD did with an absolute basket case.

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Wow! That sets the bar pretty high! I thought mine was rusty! Well I am quite certain my progress will not reflect that level of detail but I know where to look when I need some ideas.
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JCorr1975,

It is amazing how much abuse and neglect these tools can take and still be brought back to life. Clean up the rust on those Way Tubes and other parts to make it functional again. If you decide to do a complete restoration to make it "like new" great, if not it will still be a good usable tool. You can always go back later and do more restoration work if you desire. Below is a pair of Way Tubes I took a "before and after" picture of. They both cleaned up very nice. These were not the worst set I have had that still "cleaned up" nicely. You can do the same with the 2 Table Rods (posts) to make them shiny again too.

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When removing rust and other foreign matter it is important not to remove any of the base metal. Use a good rust remover followed by polishing the tubes. Johnsons original formula Paste Wax or similar will help protect the bare metal parts and provide lubrication to keep those parts, like the Headstock and Carriage, moving smoothly on the way tubes. The same goes for other bare metal parts.

If you need any help, just ask.

It is interesting it came with a Shopsmith Bandsaw. Since it is dacades newer than the Model 10ER I have to wonder it a previous owner had it to use on a Mark V. There are options as to what to do with it. You can try to find the Power Mount Adapter parts with the special Headstock Pulley and use it on your Model 10ER. You could look for a Power Station to run it on or get a new (from Shopsmith) or used SPT stand with motor to run it on. There is the option of gettng a Mark series tool to use it on. You could sell it and likely get your investment or more back on it. I would not recommend selling it if you ever think you may want to have a Bandsaw. It would be hard to get another one for the price you paid for it. $100 for just the Model 10ER was a good deal.

Lastly did you get an Owner's Guide (manual) with it?
Russ

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Russ, that is one fine looking Way Tube! I got 4 in the goo overnight and would love to have them turn out like that down the road, beautiful work.
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Wow! Your way tubes look better than factory fresh! I may invest in a power station for a standalone band saw. I started sizing up an approach to loosen things up. It definitely looks like someone tried the brute force approach as there are mushroomed ends on the way tubes and table rods. I started with some pb blaster to try and work it in. Lightly sanded the way tube sections that were exposed and also managed to knock one of the table rods out with a rubber mallet. Some of these parts seem like they have completely fused together. Headstock, carriage and speed changer wouldn’t budge with semi gentle force. I soaked some shop towels in Evaporust to wrap around handles and knobs and letting it sit overnight. It also looks like the speed changer had broken on the left “ear” and was welded back on..so that will be a challenge to not re break…
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Prime rule for a speed changer. NEVER rotate crank when either of the springs between the speed controller link and the arm being moved are fully compressed. Clumsy wording, but very important. Ignoring it is the cause of so many having that 'ear' busted.
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