Thanks David, yes, that is more like the system I would like to have, but prior to purchasing the lower and upper guards I currently have I did some research here and I believe the newer lower guards wont fit my Mark VII. At least not without modification. I am going to revisit this and do some more research before I purchase another.
Mike -
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Re: Lower Saw Guard
ShopSmith Mark VII (406982), with Band Saw, Jig Saw, Belt Sander, and Jointer
ShopSmith Mark VII (400457), (working backup or parts machine)
12" Craftsman Band Saw (113.243311)
12" Craftsman Powered Hacksaw (108.1501)
12" Atlas Commercial (3990) 12" Back Geared, Undermount, Screw Cutting Lathe with Quick Change Gear Box, Taper, Milling and Grinding Attachments
Atlas MFC Horizontal Milling Machine with Vertical Milling Attachment
Atlas 7B Metal Shaper
ShopSmith Mark VII (400457), (working backup or parts machine)
12" Craftsman Band Saw (113.243311)
12" Craftsman Powered Hacksaw (108.1501)
12" Atlas Commercial (3990) 12" Back Geared, Undermount, Screw Cutting Lathe with Quick Change Gear Box, Taper, Milling and Grinding Attachments
Atlas MFC Horizontal Milling Machine with Vertical Milling Attachment
Atlas 7B Metal Shaper
Re: Lower Saw Guard
Impressive work Mike!
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Re: Lower Saw Guard
Thanks Mike, appreciate it.
ShopSmith Mark VII (406982), with Band Saw, Jig Saw, Belt Sander, and Jointer
ShopSmith Mark VII (400457), (working backup or parts machine)
12" Craftsman Band Saw (113.243311)
12" Craftsman Powered Hacksaw (108.1501)
12" Atlas Commercial (3990) 12" Back Geared, Undermount, Screw Cutting Lathe with Quick Change Gear Box, Taper, Milling and Grinding Attachments
Atlas MFC Horizontal Milling Machine with Vertical Milling Attachment
Atlas 7B Metal Shaper
ShopSmith Mark VII (400457), (working backup or parts machine)
12" Craftsman Band Saw (113.243311)
12" Craftsman Powered Hacksaw (108.1501)
12" Atlas Commercial (3990) 12" Back Geared, Undermount, Screw Cutting Lathe with Quick Change Gear Box, Taper, Milling and Grinding Attachments
Atlas MFC Horizontal Milling Machine with Vertical Milling Attachment
Atlas 7B Metal Shaper
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Re: Lower Saw Guard
Mike,
I haven't owned a Mark VII yet, so this is only what I have observed about them. The Table surface is very similar to the Mark 5/V 500 original Table System except the Mark VII table is larger. The Mark VII uses the same Table Inserts as the Mark 5/V 500 which for the Saw Blade Insert was part number 501379. These Mark VII and Mark 5/V 500 original Table System Inserts are not long enough in the blade opening to have a Riving Knife or Upper Blade Guard (they both mount the same) inserted in the Mark V 510/505, 520 Mark 7 and Mark 4 Saw Blade Guard set even if the Lower Guard could be adapted to fit. The saw blade opening on the Mark V 510/505, 520 Mark 7 and Mark 4 Table Insert is 12-1/2" long but the saw blade opening on the Mark VII and Mark 5/V 500 Table Insert is only 10-1/2" long. The Mark VII & Mark 5/V 500 Table Insert does not have enough overall length or the opening in the table to modify the hole longer to make the Mark V 510/505, 520 Mark 7 or Mark 4 Saw Blade Guard set work for the Riving Knife or Upper Saw Blade Guard. Even if it was possible you would have to get the longer Arbors.
If desired a Riving Knife could be made for the Guard set you have, fashioned after the splitter of the Upper Guard.
I haven't owned a Mark VII yet, so this is only what I have observed about them. The Table surface is very similar to the Mark 5/V 500 original Table System except the Mark VII table is larger. The Mark VII uses the same Table Inserts as the Mark 5/V 500 which for the Saw Blade Insert was part number 501379. These Mark VII and Mark 5/V 500 original Table System Inserts are not long enough in the blade opening to have a Riving Knife or Upper Blade Guard (they both mount the same) inserted in the Mark V 510/505, 520 Mark 7 and Mark 4 Saw Blade Guard set even if the Lower Guard could be adapted to fit. The saw blade opening on the Mark V 510/505, 520 Mark 7 and Mark 4 Table Insert is 12-1/2" long but the saw blade opening on the Mark VII and Mark 5/V 500 Table Insert is only 10-1/2" long. The Mark VII & Mark 5/V 500 Table Insert does not have enough overall length or the opening in the table to modify the hole longer to make the Mark V 510/505, 520 Mark 7 or Mark 4 Saw Blade Guard set work for the Riving Knife or Upper Saw Blade Guard. Even if it was possible you would have to get the longer Arbors.
If desired a Riving Knife could be made for the Guard set you have, fashioned after the splitter of the Upper Guard.
Russ
Mark V completely upgraded to Mark 7
Mark V 520
All SPT's & 2 Power Stations
Model 10ER S/N R64000 first one I restored on bench w/ metal ends & retractable casters.
Has Speed Changer, 4E Jointer, Jig Saw with lamp, a complete set of original accessories & much more.
Model 10E's S/N's 1076 & 1077 oldest ones I have restored. Mark 2 S/N 85959 restored. Others to be restored.
Mark V completely upgraded to Mark 7
Mark V 520
All SPT's & 2 Power Stations
Model 10ER S/N R64000 first one I restored on bench w/ metal ends & retractable casters.
Has Speed Changer, 4E Jointer, Jig Saw with lamp, a complete set of original accessories & much more.
Model 10E's S/N's 1076 & 1077 oldest ones I have restored. Mark 2 S/N 85959 restored. Others to be restored.
Re: Lower Saw Guard
Great info Russ, you saved me a lot of research time. I'm ok with it the way it is.
Thanks, Mike -
Thanks, Mike -
ShopSmith Mark VII (406982), with Band Saw, Jig Saw, Belt Sander, and Jointer
ShopSmith Mark VII (400457), (working backup or parts machine)
12" Craftsman Band Saw (113.243311)
12" Craftsman Powered Hacksaw (108.1501)
12" Atlas Commercial (3990) 12" Back Geared, Undermount, Screw Cutting Lathe with Quick Change Gear Box, Taper, Milling and Grinding Attachments
Atlas MFC Horizontal Milling Machine with Vertical Milling Attachment
Atlas 7B Metal Shaper
ShopSmith Mark VII (400457), (working backup or parts machine)
12" Craftsman Band Saw (113.243311)
12" Craftsman Powered Hacksaw (108.1501)
12" Atlas Commercial (3990) 12" Back Geared, Undermount, Screw Cutting Lathe with Quick Change Gear Box, Taper, Milling and Grinding Attachments
Atlas MFC Horizontal Milling Machine with Vertical Milling Attachment
Atlas 7B Metal Shaper