Miters or cross bevels on long stock

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Re: Miters or cross bevels on long stock

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Very nicely summarized, Al!

In the third picture it appears that the gap is greater on the bottom of the joint than at the top, which makes me wonder if at some point during the cut the workpiece shifted and was no longer at 90 to the blade. The Hands On article shows a featherboard pressing the work tight against the jig to prevent this.
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I suggest using your sanding disk to finish the miter ends of these pieces. Cut them a little over then clamp the board down using your miter gauge for the proper angle that you've already worked out on some scrap wood. It is much easier to finish a fixed work piece by moving the sanding disk on the quill to slowly finish off the end.
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edma194 wrote: Fri Mar 18, 2022 6:24 pm I suggest using your sanding disk to finish the miter ends of these pieces. Cut them a little over then clamp the board down using your miter gauge for the proper angle that you've already worked out on some scrap wood. It is much easier to finish a fixed work piece by moving the sanding disk on the quill to slowly finish off the end.
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+1 or clamp it flat to the table and use the table tilt and a angle finder and disc sander making sure the piece is square to the disc ,than just extend the quill into the work . I agree with AL as well , everything has to be perfect , the width the thickness both are as critical as the miter setting .
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Re: Miters or cross bevels on long stock

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Thanks for all the ideas/suggestions. Here's a couple of pics of the project for anyone who was wondering what I was making. It's Shut the Box game.
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very nice!
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Re: Miters or cross bevels on long stock

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I have used the jig featured in the ON HANDS article with success. It is easy to use and produces a very accurate miter joint. It is especially useful for cross-cut bevels on long stock. The jig has a movable arm that is set to the desired angle and then locked in place. It also has a stop block that is adjustable so that all of the pieces in a project are cut to the same length. The jig does require a sacrificial fence to be attached to the miter gauge, but this is easy to do with a few screws and some sandpaper on the face of the fence to help keep the workpiece from slipping. The jig is a great way to get consistent, accurate miter joints for boxes and other projects.
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This might be a bit off topic and the easy way out, but several years ago when I was struggling with table saw miters I stumbled on a post by sehast where he mentioned that he had moved to "lapped miters" (viewtopic.php?p=248758&hilit=infinityto ... ed#p248758). I ordered up the same bits he recommended and have never looked back. What I like about this approach is that if you mill your lumber properly -- square, uniform thickness, width and length -- the joint is foolproof. I'm pretty good at milling lumber so it works for me. I also like it because I can reliably make a long joint (say along the length of a box).

I've used this approach on both cabinets and boxes. I've attached a couple of pictures from a box that my daughter and I built a couple years ago where we even used it to make the sliding lid of the box. Worked great!

-Erik

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That's a gorgeous box, Erik!
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