Share your Magna memorabilia!
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1955 Mark 5 Brochure Featuring the Future Bandsaw/Belt Sander
Hard to believe I started this thread over a year ago! Thanks to all those who have contributed, commented, and shared some of the interesting vintage items that have been included with their machine purchases over the years.
Yesterday, I received an eBay purchase of a couple of greenie Mark 5 brochures from June 1955:
. I have a number of these from this print date, and will acquire good condition examples like these if they have something unique about them - like the dealer stamps on these:
. The San Bruno retailer must have had some close relations with Magna back at that time, being just 20 miles up the road from Menlo Park HQ…
Anyway, I digress… What struck me this morning as I was flipping through these two was that while the the glossy cover pic featured all 5 SPTs that were ultimately available in the late 1950s (similar 1954 brochures only featured the two SPTs available at the initial release of the Mark 5 - the jointer and jigsaw), the inner brochure pages (and the back of the pamphlet) were missing the bandsaw and belt sander:
. And while I’m sure the bandsaw and belt sander must have been under development at that time, they were likely only in mock-up form on the glossy cover pic. A little design feature that never made it to the eventual bandsaw design appears to confirm this (who can spot it??!):
. . Thanks for continuing to tune into this thread. I have a few more memorabilia items I look forward to sharing soon…
Hard to believe I started this thread over a year ago! Thanks to all those who have contributed, commented, and shared some of the interesting vintage items that have been included with their machine purchases over the years.
Yesterday, I received an eBay purchase of a couple of greenie Mark 5 brochures from June 1955:
. I have a number of these from this print date, and will acquire good condition examples like these if they have something unique about them - like the dealer stamps on these:
. The San Bruno retailer must have had some close relations with Magna back at that time, being just 20 miles up the road from Menlo Park HQ…
Anyway, I digress… What struck me this morning as I was flipping through these two was that while the the glossy cover pic featured all 5 SPTs that were ultimately available in the late 1950s (similar 1954 brochures only featured the two SPTs available at the initial release of the Mark 5 - the jointer and jigsaw), the inner brochure pages (and the back of the pamphlet) were missing the bandsaw and belt sander:
. And while I’m sure the bandsaw and belt sander must have been under development at that time, they were likely only in mock-up form on the glossy cover pic. A little design feature that never made it to the eventual bandsaw design appears to confirm this (who can spot it??!):
. . Thanks for continuing to tune into this thread. I have a few more memorabilia items I look forward to sharing soon…
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John Dalton
Massachusetts
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1948 10E, S/N 5052 (restored)
1950 10ER, S/N 26473 (restored)
1952 10ER, S/N 51721 (restored as dedicated drill press)
1954 Mark 5, S/N 263334 (functionally restored)
1954 Mark 5, S/N 263705 (restored/PowerPro)
c1959 Mark 2, S/N 81940 (undergoing restoration)
Massachusetts
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1948 10E, S/N 5052 (restored)
1950 10ER, S/N 26473 (restored)
1952 10ER, S/N 51721 (restored as dedicated drill press)
1954 Mark 5, S/N 263334 (functionally restored)
1954 Mark 5, S/N 263705 (restored/PowerPro)
c1959 Mark 2, S/N 81940 (undergoing restoration)
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Re: Share your Magna memorabilia!
Thank you Mr. Dalton for collecting and posting all these items over the year(s).
This forum has just the people who can appreciate and learn from them as I have.
This forum has just the people who can appreciate and learn from them as I have.
Mark V, Model 555510, Serial No. 102689, purchased November 1989. Upgraded to 520
Re: Share your Magna memorabilia!
The version shown seems to have an extra cover knob.jpdalton wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 11:36 am And while I’m sure the bandsaw and belt sander must have been under development at that time, they were likely only in mock-up form on the glossy cover pick. A little design feature that never made it to the eventual bandsaw design appears to confirm this (who can spot it??!):
- David
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That was my observation as well. Can’t really see enough detail in the image of the belt sander to tell whether there are any obvious prototype features on that one as well.
John Dalton
Massachusetts
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1948 10E, S/N 5052 (restored)
1950 10ER, S/N 26473 (restored)
1952 10ER, S/N 51721 (restored as dedicated drill press)
1954 Mark 5, S/N 263334 (functionally restored)
1954 Mark 5, S/N 263705 (restored/PowerPro)
c1959 Mark 2, S/N 81940 (undergoing restoration)
Massachusetts
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1948 10E, S/N 5052 (restored)
1950 10ER, S/N 26473 (restored)
1952 10ER, S/N 51721 (restored as dedicated drill press)
1954 Mark 5, S/N 263334 (functionally restored)
1954 Mark 5, S/N 263705 (restored/PowerPro)
c1959 Mark 2, S/N 81940 (undergoing restoration)
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Thanks, Steve! I’m just happy to have a place where I can share some of these items with the larger community.SteveMaryland wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 2:12 pm This forum has just the people who can appreciate and learn from them as I have.
John Dalton
Massachusetts
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1948 10E, S/N 5052 (restored)
1950 10ER, S/N 26473 (restored)
1952 10ER, S/N 51721 (restored as dedicated drill press)
1954 Mark 5, S/N 263334 (functionally restored)
1954 Mark 5, S/N 263705 (restored/PowerPro)
c1959 Mark 2, S/N 81940 (undergoing restoration)
Massachusetts
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1948 10E, S/N 5052 (restored)
1950 10ER, S/N 26473 (restored)
1952 10ER, S/N 51721 (restored as dedicated drill press)
1954 Mark 5, S/N 263334 (functionally restored)
1954 Mark 5, S/N 263705 (restored/PowerPro)
c1959 Mark 2, S/N 81940 (undergoing restoration)
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I hadn't really looked that close at the old brochures to spot those differences. I have those brochures myself from that time period. I see a couple of other changes from the Bandsaw shown in the brochure to the production ones. It appears that there is only 1 miter slot on the table. The Magna Logo is not painted like the production ones as seen on my restored 1956 Bandsaw shown below.
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The Belt Sander appears to be different than the production model. Note the location of the belt tensioner in John's picture. It is on the wrong side.
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The Belt Sander appears to be different than the production model. Note the location of the belt tensioner in John's picture. It is on the wrong side.
Russ
Mark V completely upgraded to Mark 7
Mark V 520
All SPT's & 2 Power Stations
Model 10ER S/N R64000 first one I restored on bench w/ metal ends & retractable casters.
Has Speed Changer, 4E Jointer, Jig Saw with lamp, a complete set of original accessories & much more.
Model 10E's S/N's 1076 & 1077 oldest ones I have restored. Mark 2 S/N 85959 restored. Others to be restored.
Mark V completely upgraded to Mark 7
Mark V 520
All SPT's & 2 Power Stations
Model 10ER S/N R64000 first one I restored on bench w/ metal ends & retractable casters.
Has Speed Changer, 4E Jointer, Jig Saw with lamp, a complete set of original accessories & much more.
Model 10E's S/N's 1076 & 1077 oldest ones I have restored. Mark 2 S/N 85959 restored. Others to be restored.
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Good catch on those additional features missing from the mock-up bandsaw! The mock-up also appears to lack some of the top/bottom symmetry that your production unit displays.chapmanruss wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 11:01 am It appears that there is only 1 miter slot on the table. The Magna Logo is not painted like the production ones as seen on my restored 1956 Bandsaw shown below.
Did you have to refinish the painted logo on your restoration? That’s a beautiful condition cover - mine was a bit scuffed up, but cleaned up well. I also opted not to attempt a repaint on the logo, but I would like to fill it in a bit better…
. I did find some surprise instructions still in great shape inside the cover - I guess not all Magna documents come in a 3-ring binder!
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John Dalton
Massachusetts
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1948 10E, S/N 5052 (restored)
1950 10ER, S/N 26473 (restored)
1952 10ER, S/N 51721 (restored as dedicated drill press)
1954 Mark 5, S/N 263334 (functionally restored)
1954 Mark 5, S/N 263705 (restored/PowerPro)
c1959 Mark 2, S/N 81940 (undergoing restoration)
Massachusetts
*****************************************
1948 10E, S/N 5052 (restored)
1950 10ER, S/N 26473 (restored)
1952 10ER, S/N 51721 (restored as dedicated drill press)
1954 Mark 5, S/N 263334 (functionally restored)
1954 Mark 5, S/N 263705 (restored/PowerPro)
c1959 Mark 2, S/N 81940 (undergoing restoration)
- chapmanruss
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I did repaint the name and logo since some of the original paint had worn off.
Russ
Mark V completely upgraded to Mark 7
Mark V 520
All SPT's & 2 Power Stations
Model 10ER S/N R64000 first one I restored on bench w/ metal ends & retractable casters.
Has Speed Changer, 4E Jointer, Jig Saw with lamp, a complete set of original accessories & much more.
Model 10E's S/N's 1076 & 1077 oldest ones I have restored. Mark 2 S/N 85959 restored. Others to be restored.
Mark V completely upgraded to Mark 7
Mark V 520
All SPT's & 2 Power Stations
Model 10ER S/N R64000 first one I restored on bench w/ metal ends & retractable casters.
Has Speed Changer, 4E Jointer, Jig Saw with lamp, a complete set of original accessories & much more.
Model 10E's S/N's 1076 & 1077 oldest ones I have restored. Mark 2 S/N 85959 restored. Others to be restored.
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10-inch Sandpaper Discs??
Got a pretty unique item from an eBay purchase recently - a pack of 10-inch sandpaper discs (with original packaging, of course)! Based on the style of the Shopsmith logo featured on the packaging, this is from the Mark VII era.
. …Mark VII logo medallion added for reference.
For the longest time, I had only known of the traditional 12-inch sanding disc, and only recently was made aware of a 9-inch version that was created to accompany the Sawsmith RAS.
But I went back to my trusty stash of accessory catalogs, and there they were… 10-inch discs and paper! And while as late as the March 1965 Magna American catalog the 12-inch disc was offered as standard for the Mark VII and 9-inch disc was standard for the Sawsmith,
. …the January 1966 catalog suggested a 10-inch disc was now standard for both machines.
. Based on its price tag, this sandpaper pack was sold from Montgomery Ward, but must have been in the bargain bin with the markdowns it experienced.
. Anyone ever see one of these 10-inch sanding discs??
Got a pretty unique item from an eBay purchase recently - a pack of 10-inch sandpaper discs (with original packaging, of course)! Based on the style of the Shopsmith logo featured on the packaging, this is from the Mark VII era.
. …Mark VII logo medallion added for reference.
For the longest time, I had only known of the traditional 12-inch sanding disc, and only recently was made aware of a 9-inch version that was created to accompany the Sawsmith RAS.
But I went back to my trusty stash of accessory catalogs, and there they were… 10-inch discs and paper! And while as late as the March 1965 Magna American catalog the 12-inch disc was offered as standard for the Mark VII and 9-inch disc was standard for the Sawsmith,
. …the January 1966 catalog suggested a 10-inch disc was now standard for both machines.
. Based on its price tag, this sandpaper pack was sold from Montgomery Ward, but must have been in the bargain bin with the markdowns it experienced.
. Anyone ever see one of these 10-inch sanding discs??
John Dalton
Massachusetts
*****************************************
1948 10E, S/N 5052 (restored)
1950 10ER, S/N 26473 (restored)
1952 10ER, S/N 51721 (restored as dedicated drill press)
1954 Mark 5, S/N 263334 (functionally restored)
1954 Mark 5, S/N 263705 (restored/PowerPro)
c1959 Mark 2, S/N 81940 (undergoing restoration)
Massachusetts
*****************************************
1948 10E, S/N 5052 (restored)
1950 10ER, S/N 26473 (restored)
1952 10ER, S/N 51721 (restored as dedicated drill press)
1954 Mark 5, S/N 263334 (functionally restored)
1954 Mark 5, S/N 263705 (restored/PowerPro)
c1959 Mark 2, S/N 81940 (undergoing restoration)
- chapmanruss
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As I understand it the 10" Sanding Disk came with the Mark VII in the 1960's. It is a double-sided Sanding Disk with a flat face and conical on the hub side. The conical side has a lesser degree than the 12" Conical Sanding Disk which has a 4-degree slant. I have a 10" double-sided Sanding Disk which is shown below.
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Russ
Mark V completely upgraded to Mark 7
Mark V 520
All SPT's & 2 Power Stations
Model 10ER S/N R64000 first one I restored on bench w/ metal ends & retractable casters.
Has Speed Changer, 4E Jointer, Jig Saw with lamp, a complete set of original accessories & much more.
Model 10E's S/N's 1076 & 1077 oldest ones I have restored. Mark 2 S/N 85959 restored. Others to be restored.
Mark V completely upgraded to Mark 7
Mark V 520
All SPT's & 2 Power Stations
Model 10ER S/N R64000 first one I restored on bench w/ metal ends & retractable casters.
Has Speed Changer, 4E Jointer, Jig Saw with lamp, a complete set of original accessories & much more.
Model 10E's S/N's 1076 & 1077 oldest ones I have restored. Mark 2 S/N 85959 restored. Others to be restored.