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Re: 3" caster upgrade

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dusty wrote: Sun Mar 05, 2023 6:36 am They did fix the problem with the metal drilling template---if you buy it. It did not come with the machine. I don't think it is still being offered though. What was the part number.
According to the on-line catalog, which has some conflicting statements, the steel drilling template is now included in the upgrade version:
"Includes: Set of 4 - 3" premium replacement casters for use in your existing retractable caster brackets • metal drilling template & drill bit • complete installation instructions." Source: https://www.shopsmith.com/ownersite/cat ... asters.htm

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dusty wrote: Sun Mar 05, 2023 6:36 am What was the part number.
I dug through my emails and found it. I ordered the 3" premium upgrade casters at the end of 2018 and below is a copy of my invoice. The template jig is called "Drill Bit Guide" and the part number was 556425. I strongly recommend anyone interested in the upgraded casters from Shopsmith to call them and ask specifically for this part number and see if it can be resurrected. IMHO it was well worth the $20 for it.
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Re: 3" caster upgrade

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DLB wrote: Sun Mar 05, 2023 8:52 am
dusty wrote: Sun Mar 05, 2023 6:36 am They did fix the problem with the metal drilling template---if you buy it. It did not come with the machine. I don't think it is still being offered though. What was the part number.
According to the on-line catalog, which has some conflicting statements, the steel drilling template is now included in the upgrade version:
"Includes: Set of 4 - 3" premium replacement casters for use in your existing retractable caster brackets • metal drilling template & drill bit • complete installation instructions." Source: https://www.shopsmith.com/ownersite/cat ... asters.htm

- David
First let me make it clear...I love the 3" casters.

I don't find any reference to a "metal template" in the online catalog or the PDF it references. The PDF does give instructions for cutting out and applying the paper template.Catalogs change with time just like the equipment. No matter, I will just make another template using wood as I did before
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Re: 3" caster upgrade

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RFGuy wrote: Sun Mar 05, 2023 8:53 am
dusty wrote: Sun Mar 05, 2023 6:36 am What was the part number.
I dug through my emails and found it. I ordered the 3" premium upgrade casters at the end of 2018 and below is a copy of my invoice. The template jig is called "Drill Bit Guide" and the part number was 556425. I strongly recommend anyone interested in the upgraded casters from Shopsmith to call them and ask specifically for this part number and see if it can be resurrected. IMHO it was well worth the $20 for it.
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I agree, a reliable drilling template would be a plus. However, the demand for one may not have been significant enough for SS to keep the item in inventory.
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Re: 3" caster upgrade

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Well, my 520 had no casters at all, so I ordered the premium retractable caster set (part #556247), which only came with a set of templates printed on paper with the instructions...no mention of a template jig or other more reliable option. You cut out the paper templates, line them up with the existing holes, tape them in place, and mark the new locations with a drift and then drill the new holes. I followed the instructions very meticulously and as noted, it worked but the alignment wasn't perfect...good enough to get them attached but I was just surprised that this problem was still persisting. I'm not complaining about SS but rather just trying to point out to others that do this down the road to be prepared to have to finesse things together a bit as the template isn't flawless. When the dust settled, they attached fine and work perfectly, so that is what counts.
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I am curious in what direction did the holes location vary from "perfect"?
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dusty wrote: Sun Mar 05, 2023 9:58 am
DLB wrote: Sun Mar 05, 2023 8:52 am
dusty wrote: Sun Mar 05, 2023 6:36 am They did fix the problem with the metal drilling template---if you buy it. It did not come with the machine. I don't think it is still being offered though. What was the part number.
According to the on-line catalog, which has some conflicting statements, the steel drilling template is now included in the upgrade version:
"Includes: Set of 4 - 3" premium replacement casters for use in your existing retractable caster brackets • metal drilling template & drill bit • complete installation instructions." Source: https://www.shopsmith.com/ownersite/cat ... asters.htm

- David
First let me make it clear...I love the 3" casters.

I don't find any reference to a "metal template" in the online catalog or the PDF it references. The PDF does give instructions for cutting out and applying the paper template.Catalogs change with time just like the equipment. No matter, I will just make another template using wood as I did before
I don't know where you are looking but the link David provided says exactly what he quoted in his post. Apparently it is not sold separately it is included with the castors.
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Re: 3" caster upgrade

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I bought my more recent 3" Caster Upgrade P/N 556224 in February 2020. It came with the Metal Drill Guide (P/N 523008) and the 9/32" Drill Bit (P/N 523009) as indicated in the online catalog. The Drill Guide Instructions are P/N 845669. The instructions for the 3” Caster Upgrade for the Mark-V & Mark-7 (845639) can be found at the link below.

https://www.shopsmith.com/ownersite/man ... _04-12.pdf

The Metal Drill Guide, Drill Bit and instruction's part numbers listed above are from the instructions themself but a search for them produces 0 results. :confused:

dgale had ordered the Premium Retractable Casters P/N 556247 (complete assembly) not the upgrade of four 3" casters. I think the Metal Guide should be included, just my opinion, but the catalog says,
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Re: 3" caster upgrade

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So back when the paper template became a problem was that with the castor wheel kit and they fixed that with the metal template but never fixed the castor assembly kit. Or SS never photo copied the templet for the complete castor kit. It is all kind of strange. The left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing.
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Re: 3" caster upgrade

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jsburger wrote: Sun Mar 05, 2023 3:10 pm So back when the paper template became a problem was that with the castor wheel kit and they fixed that with the metal template but never fixed the castor assembly kit. Or SS never photo copied the templet for the complete castor kit. It is all kind of strange. The left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing.
I can't tell you when but I can assure you that the paper template was at some time corrected. I had one of the bad photocopies; unfortunately, I must not have kept it. I received a correct copy from SC and still have it. I took measurements from that copy to make my wooden template. Unfortunately, I did not keep that either. Now I have two sets of wheels to mount. and only a paper template.

Incidently, this photo copy SNAFU was a long time ago. Must we drag up this sort thing for extended discussion on the forum.
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