Shopsmith's new website is up....
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- JPG
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Re: Shopsmith's new website is up....
Ignoring obvious deficiencies is not positive, nor is mentioning them negative.
Simply telling it as it is.
Why do we do so? An open admission of our desire for more a favorable reality.
Any hope of creating that alternate reality? Not likely, but there is hope the walls have ears.
Realize 'we' are not part of the solution(NEW owners are).
We also have remembrance of the past that was more desirable, but not realistic today.
When was the last time you visited a real hardware store that sells hardware(nuts bolts hinges tools....) rather than big ticket items taking up the floor space.
Times HAVE changed. I hope Nick has a reasonable path taking SS down the road.
What bothers me is how $950,000 covers all of SS assets.
Simply telling it as it is.
Why do we do so? An open admission of our desire for more a favorable reality.
Any hope of creating that alternate reality? Not likely, but there is hope the walls have ears.
Realize 'we' are not part of the solution(NEW owners are).
We also have remembrance of the past that was more desirable, but not realistic today.
When was the last time you visited a real hardware store that sells hardware(nuts bolts hinges tools....) rather than big ticket items taking up the floor space.
Times HAVE changed. I hope Nick has a reasonable path taking SS down the road.
What bothers me is how $950,000 covers all of SS assets.
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Goldie(Bought New SN 377425)/4" jointer/6" beltsander/12" planer/stripsander/bandsaw/powerstation /Scroll saw/Jig saw /Craftsman 10" ras/Craftsman 6" thicknessplaner/ Dayton10"tablesaw(restoredfromneighborstrashpile)/ Mark VII restoration in 'progress'/ 10E[/size](SN E3779) restoration in progress, a 510 on the back burner and a growing pile of items to be eventually returned to useful life. - aka Red Grange
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Goldie(Bought New SN 377425)/4" jointer/6" beltsander/12" planer/stripsander/bandsaw/powerstation /Scroll saw/Jig saw /Craftsman 10" ras/Craftsman 6" thicknessplaner/ Dayton10"tablesaw(restoredfromneighborstrashpile)/ Mark VII restoration in 'progress'/ 10E[/size](SN E3779) restoration in progress, a 510 on the back burner and a growing pile of items to be eventually returned to useful life. - aka Red Grange
Re: Shopsmith's new website is up....
I think the previous owners made out well selling their used Shopsmith company for that price. And the new owners did well compared to the typical price of a brand new Shopsmith company
Ed from Rhode Island
510 PowerPro Double Tilt:Greenie PowerPro Drill Press:500 Sanding Shorty w/Belt&Strip Sanders
Super Sawsmith 2000:Scroll Saw w/Stand:Joint-Matic:Power Station:Power Stand:Bandsaw:Joiner:Jigsaw
1961 Goldie:1960 Sawsmith RAS:10ER
510 PowerPro Double Tilt:Greenie PowerPro Drill Press:500 Sanding Shorty w/Belt&Strip Sanders
Super Sawsmith 2000:Scroll Saw w/Stand:Joint-Matic:Power Station:Power Stand:Bandsaw:Joiner:Jigsaw
1961 Goldie:1960 Sawsmith RAS:10ER
Re: Shopsmith's new website is up....
Thanks JPG. Insightful. I was trying to state that a 15% loan interest rate for a low risk hobby woodworker is unreasonable. Unfortunately I did so with flair and ruffled more feathers than I should have. Apologies to those who I offended. I sincerely hope Shopsmith can succeed and will try to keep my worries, concerns for their business to myself. Voicing them, in hopes of altering reality, is causing too much drama on the forum.JPG wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2024 9:50 am Ignoring obvious deficiencies is not positive, nor is mentioning them negative.
Simply telling it as it is.
Why do we do so? An open admission of our desire for more a favorable reality.
Any hope of creating that alternate reality? Not likely, but there is hope the walls have ears.
Realize 'we' are not part of the solution(NEW owners are).
We also have remembrance of the past that was more desirable, but not realistic today.
When was the last time you visited a real hardware store that sells hardware(nuts bolts hinges tools....) rather than big ticket items taking up the floor space.
Times HAVE changed. I hope Nick has a reasonable path taking SS down the road.
What bothers me is how $950,000 covers all of SS assets.
RF Guy
Mark V 520 (Bought New '98) | 4" jointer | 6" beltsander | 12" planer | bandsaw | router table | speed reducer | univ. tool rest
Porter Cable 12" Compound Miter Saw | Rikon 8" Low Speed Bench Grinder w/CBN wheels | Jessem Clear-Cut TS™ Stock Guides
Festool (Emerald): DF 500 Q | RO 150 FEQ | OF 1400 EQ | TS 55 REQ | CT 26 E
DC3300 | Shopvac w/ClearVue CV06 Mini Cyclone | JDS AirTech 2000 | Sundstrom PAPR | Dylos DC1100 Pro particulate monitor
Mark V 520 (Bought New '98) | 4" jointer | 6" beltsander | 12" planer | bandsaw | router table | speed reducer | univ. tool rest
Porter Cable 12" Compound Miter Saw | Rikon 8" Low Speed Bench Grinder w/CBN wheels | Jessem Clear-Cut TS™ Stock Guides
Festool (Emerald): DF 500 Q | RO 150 FEQ | OF 1400 EQ | TS 55 REQ | CT 26 E
DC3300 | Shopvac w/ClearVue CV06 Mini Cyclone | JDS AirTech 2000 | Sundstrom PAPR | Dylos DC1100 Pro particulate monitor
Re: Shopsmith's new website is up....
lol
The real question is whether the used Shopsmith company came with a big box of accessories!
Gale's Law: The bigger the woodworking project, the less the mistakes show in any photo taken far enough away to show the entire project!
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Re: Shopsmith's new website is up....
... some of which no one can identifyalgale wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2024 1:05 pmlol
The real question is whether the used Shopsmith company came with a big box of accessories!
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- JPG
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Re: Shopsmith's new website is up....
Like from that firm down in Ms(?) that also made roto tillers?algale wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2024 1:05 pmlol
The real question is whether the used Shopsmith company came with a big box of accessories!
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Goldie(Bought New SN 377425)/4" jointer/6" beltsander/12" planer/stripsander/bandsaw/powerstation /Scroll saw/Jig saw /Craftsman 10" ras/Craftsman 6" thicknessplaner/ Dayton10"tablesaw(restoredfromneighborstrashpile)/ Mark VII restoration in 'progress'/ 10E[/size](SN E3779) restoration in progress, a 510 on the back burner and a growing pile of items to be eventually returned to useful life. - aka Red Grange
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Goldie(Bought New SN 377425)/4" jointer/6" beltsander/12" planer/stripsander/bandsaw/powerstation /Scroll saw/Jig saw /Craftsman 10" ras/Craftsman 6" thicknessplaner/ Dayton10"tablesaw(restoredfromneighborstrashpile)/ Mark VII restoration in 'progress'/ 10E[/size](SN E3779) restoration in progress, a 510 on the back burner and a growing pile of items to be eventually returned to useful life. - aka Red Grange
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Re: Shopsmith's new website is up....
JPG,
Weren't they called Yard something?
Weren't they called Yard something?
Russ
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Has Speed Changer, 4E Jointer, Jig Saw with lamp, a complete set of original accessories & much more.
Model 10E's S/N's 1076 & 1077 oldest ones I have restored. Mark 2 S/N 85959 restored. Others to be restored.
Mark V completely upgraded to Mark 7
Mark V 520
All SPT's & 2 Power Stations
Model 10ER S/N R64000 first one I restored on bench w/ metal ends & retractable casters.
Has Speed Changer, 4E Jointer, Jig Saw with lamp, a complete set of original accessories & much more.
Model 10E's S/N's 1076 & 1077 oldest ones I have restored. Mark 2 S/N 85959 restored. Others to be restored.
Re: Shopsmith's new website is up....
As a follow up to the earlier discussion of parts/accessories price increases... I noticed in the recent sale ad that the Speed Reducer, which I had some interest in getting, is on sale for $449, regular $499. On May 31,2023 it went on sale for $338.02 and regular price was listed as $422.53. For the sale price in particular, that is a significant increase.
- David
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Re: Shopsmith's new website is up....
David,DLB wrote: ↑Sun Jan 07, 2024 8:21 am As a follow up to the earlier discussion of parts/accessories price increases... I noticed in the recent sale ad that the Speed Reducer, which I had some interest in getting, is on sale for $449, regular $499. On May 31,2023 it went on sale for $338.02 and regular price was listed as $422.53. For the sale price in particular, that is a significant increase.
- David
Thanks. Wow, that is a 33% increase in only 6 months. All I can say is that seems unreasonable to me. I can't say more because it would be deemed too negative here.
RF Guy
Mark V 520 (Bought New '98) | 4" jointer | 6" beltsander | 12" planer | bandsaw | router table | speed reducer | univ. tool rest
Porter Cable 12" Compound Miter Saw | Rikon 8" Low Speed Bench Grinder w/CBN wheels | Jessem Clear-Cut TS™ Stock Guides
Festool (Emerald): DF 500 Q | RO 150 FEQ | OF 1400 EQ | TS 55 REQ | CT 26 E
DC3300 | Shopvac w/ClearVue CV06 Mini Cyclone | JDS AirTech 2000 | Sundstrom PAPR | Dylos DC1100 Pro particulate monitor
Mark V 520 (Bought New '98) | 4" jointer | 6" beltsander | 12" planer | bandsaw | router table | speed reducer | univ. tool rest
Porter Cable 12" Compound Miter Saw | Rikon 8" Low Speed Bench Grinder w/CBN wheels | Jessem Clear-Cut TS™ Stock Guides
Festool (Emerald): DF 500 Q | RO 150 FEQ | OF 1400 EQ | TS 55 REQ | CT 26 E
DC3300 | Shopvac w/ClearVue CV06 Mini Cyclone | JDS AirTech 2000 | Sundstrom PAPR | Dylos DC1100 Pro particulate monitor
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Re: Shopsmith's new website is up....
I see that as "a real opportunity missed". A speed reducer listed for $422 that could have been purchased for $338; a 20% savings ($84). I don't see a 30% increase in price comparing $449 with $422. I guess it is all in how you look at it.DLB wrote: ↑Sun Jan 07, 2024 8:21 am As a follow up to the earlier discussion of parts/accessories price increases... I noticed in the recent sale ad that the Speed Reducer, which I had some interest in getting, is on sale for $449, regular $499. On May 31,2023 it went on sale for $338.02 and regular price was listed as $422.53. For the sale price in particular, that is a significant increase.
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