SPT’s What When and Where

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Re: SPT’s What When and Where

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chapmanruss wrote: Tue Jul 13, 2021 1:25 pm It is interesting that the 1st Model 620 Jointer Manual cover shows a Model 4E mounted on a Model 10 Shopsmith. The same picture used on the 4E manual cover.
Russ - sorry to come to this thread so late. I think I missed it when you first started publishing it. Love the topic!

Do you have a picture of that original 620 Manual? The earliest one I have is an April 1954 printing (well within the time a Mark 5 would have been available to photograph) that features an actual 620 on a Mark 5. What’s interesting is that it’s a copy from a dealer manual and it’s labeling indicates it’s “new” (no prior editions available), so I’ve assumed it was the first manual for the 620.
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1948 10E, S/N 5052 (restored)
1950 10ER, S/N 26473 (restored)
1952 10ER, S/N 51721 (restored as dedicated drill press)
1954 Mark 5, S/N 263334 (functionally restored)
1954 Mark 5, S/N 263705 (restored/PowerPro)
c1959 Mark 2, S/N 81940 (undergoing restoration)
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Below is a picture of the first Model 620 Jointer cover.

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Mark V completely upgraded to Mark 7
Mark V 520
All SPT's & 2 Power Stations
Model 10ER S/N R64000 first one I restored on bench w/ metal ends & retractable casters.
Has Speed Changer, 4E Jointer, Jig Saw with lamp, a complete set of original accessories & much more.
Model 10E's S/N's 1076 & 1077 oldest ones I have restored. Mark 2 S/N 85959 restored. Others to be restored.
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Re: SPT’s What When and Where

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chapmanruss wrote: Sun Apr 23, 2023 2:37 pm Below is a picture of the first Model 620 Jointer cover.
Fascinating! They clearly spared no expense on a manual for the new model!

What does the inside look like?
John Dalton
Massachusetts
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1948 10E, S/N 5052 (restored)
1950 10ER, S/N 26473 (restored)
1952 10ER, S/N 51721 (restored as dedicated drill press)
1954 Mark 5, S/N 263334 (functionally restored)
1954 Mark 5, S/N 263705 (restored/PowerPro)
c1959 Mark 2, S/N 81940 (undergoing restoration)
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John,

I wish I could show you the inside but I have to find that manual first. That is the Manual that originally came with Model 620 Jointer S/N 11458 made in 1954(?). It is possible that Jointer was actually made at the end of 1953. Jointer S/N 11458 has the lowest Serial Number I have seen for the Model 620 Jointer after the change from the Model 4E Jointer. It is possible the Model 620 Jointer was being sold prior to the introduction of the Mark 5 in March 1954 since it was still able to mount on the Model 10's with the Headrest kit. That may also explain why the Manual cover has the Model 4E Manual cover picture. Of course, this is only speculation.
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Mark V completely upgraded to Mark 7
Mark V 520
All SPT's & 2 Power Stations
Model 10ER S/N R64000 first one I restored on bench w/ metal ends & retractable casters.
Has Speed Changer, 4E Jointer, Jig Saw with lamp, a complete set of original accessories & much more.
Model 10E's S/N's 1076 & 1077 oldest ones I have restored. Mark 2 S/N 85959 restored. Others to be restored.
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jpdalton wrote: Sun Apr 23, 2023 9:11 pm
chapmanruss wrote: Sun Apr 23, 2023 2:37 pm Below is a picture of the first Model 620 Jointer cover.
Fascinating! They clearly spared no expense on a manual for the new model!

What does the inside look like?
There a couple of copies on Vintage Machinery
A grainy scan of the original
http://vintagemachinery.org/pubs/detail.aspx?id=2692

and a copy restored by Everett Davis
http://vintagemachinery.org/pubs/detail.aspx?id=18511
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10ER #23430, 10ER #84609, 10ER #94987,two SS A-34 jigsaws for 10ER.
1959 Mark 5 #356595 Greenie, SS Magna Jointer, SS planer, SS bandsaw, SS scroll saw (gray), DC3300,
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rpd wrote: Thu Apr 27, 2023 6:07 am There a couple of copies on Vintage Machinery
A grainy scan of the original
…and a copy restored by Everett Davis
Thanks for the comparison, Ron! I think you’ve solved the mystery…

Looks like there’s almost laughably trivial change between these two manuals. One is the product number:
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…and then the slight difference between the versions of the fence adjustment handle (and its accompanying part number change):
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John Dalton
Massachusetts
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1948 10E, S/N 5052 (restored)
1950 10ER, S/N 26473 (restored)
1952 10ER, S/N 51721 (restored as dedicated drill press)
1954 Mark 5, S/N 263334 (functionally restored)
1954 Mark 5, S/N 263705 (restored/PowerPro)
c1959 Mark 2, S/N 81940 (undergoing restoration)
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Ron,

Thanks for the link to the Model 4E and 620 Jointer Manuals. Something to note on the Model 620 Jointer Manual is on the back cover lower left corner. The 9048-2 1253 and Copyright 1953 indicates to me that the Model 620 Jointer may have replaced the Model 4E Jointer by December 1953 (note the 1253) which is prior to the introduction of the Mark 5.

In my post dated April 5, 2023, I noted the difference in the Fence Lock Wrench and the Hex Cap Screw between S/N 2145 and 8164. If I am remembering correctly, I have seen that difference in pictures of other Model 4E Jointers. The later Fence Lock Wrench and the Hex Cap Screw are on the Model 620 Jointer serial number 11458 I restored which is shown below. Jointer S/N 11458 is the lowest serial number I have seen for a Model 620 Jointer.

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I still wish I hadn't sold that one. :(
Russ

Mark V completely upgraded to Mark 7
Mark V 520
All SPT's & 2 Power Stations
Model 10ER S/N R64000 first one I restored on bench w/ metal ends & retractable casters.
Has Speed Changer, 4E Jointer, Jig Saw with lamp, a complete set of original accessories & much more.
Model 10E's S/N's 1076 & 1077 oldest ones I have restored. Mark 2 S/N 85959 restored. Others to be restored.
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One page 1 of this thread I posted information about the Mark Mounted Planer and the Pro Planer. Today I was again reminded, due to a discussion in another thread, that I missed including another Planer made by Shopsmith. For a time Shopsmith sold a Portable Planer as shown in the picture below. This particular Planer, which I saw for sale on ebay, has a Mfg. Date of 07-91. There isn’t any more I really know about this Shopsmith Planer but if anyone has more information, please post it to this thread.

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Russ

Mark V completely upgraded to Mark 7
Mark V 520
All SPT's & 2 Power Stations
Model 10ER S/N R64000 first one I restored on bench w/ metal ends & retractable casters.
Has Speed Changer, 4E Jointer, Jig Saw with lamp, a complete set of original accessories & much more.
Model 10E's S/N's 1076 & 1077 oldest ones I have restored. Mark 2 S/N 85959 restored. Others to be restored.
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Scott Markwood mentions it briefly in this blog post.
https://shopsmith-tool-hunter.blogspot. ... h?q=planer
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10ER #23430, 10ER #84609, 10ER #94987,two SS A-34 jigsaws for 10ER.
1959 Mark 5 #356595 Greenie, SS Magna Jointer, SS planer, SS bandsaw, SS scroll saw (gray), DC3300,
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