I got a new to me mark

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Re: I got a new to me mark

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Your Mark was manufactured as a Mark 5/V. When SS introduced the Model 510 they started calling everything before that a Model 500, so that is what yours is. We sometimes use "pre-500" and other terms to differentiate among the 500's. Looking at the carriage in your second picture, yours has not been upgraded and remains a 500.

Models 500, 505, 510, and 520 differences are the table systems. The later models have larger tables and the ability to expand the table system. All for a price, of course.

SS used to have pdf summary manuals for all models for free download, but looking at the site I can no longer find free versions. Here is a Mark 4 manual: (https://shopsmith.com/wp-content/upload ... 0-FREE.pdf) Primary differences from what you have is the machine is shorter (shorter bench and way tubes) and it has a 520 main table. They have the 500 manual for purchase, but it is paper. Maybe another member knows what's going on with the pdf manuals.

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Re: I got a new to me mark

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The cover I previously posted is showing the 1973 Owner's Manual which is only 22 pages including the covers. It does not include the parts lists or diagrams. Getting a more current Mark V 500 Manual would give you a lot more information. Even though your Mark 5 was made in 1975 it would be almost identical to the last Mark V 500 models made. The Headstock changed from the "B" to the "C" Headstock in 1991. That change affected the switch type used and its location moved slightly. Parts diagrams and lists are available here on the Shopsmith Website. Parts specific to the Model 500 Table System are no longer produced and few if any are still available new from Shopsmith. Many used Table System parts are available.

As David indicated the Summary Manuals links no longer work. Using the Mark 4 Manual will have some drawbacks. The Table/Carraige/Fence system is different. Alignment of the table system varies somewhat by model. General operations will be similar although the Mark 4 is a shorter (Bench & Way Tubes) version of the Mark V 520S. Use of the Table system will be different. Purchasing a MARK V 500 Owner's Manual would be a good investment and is a great reference. Related PDF's can be downloaded from here on the Shopsmith website.
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Re: I got a new to me mark

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Thank you!
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Re: I got a new to me mark

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Can someone identify these for me. I numbered the pics.
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Has a flat side.
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The thinner send is square and hollow.
The thinner send is square and hollow.
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Re: I got a new to me mark

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#8 is a morticing attachment. Not sure what is sticking out of the bottom.
#7 is the hold down for the morticing attachment.
#5 is a Rip-Strate. Not made anymore, it's a device to aid ripping boards by keeping them along the fence and stopping kickback.
#4, not sure. Might be part of the morticing attachment hold down.
#3 is a universal arbor. Could be 1/2" or 5/8" spindle. The half inch allows you to mount saw blades, grinding wheels, etc. with a 1/2" hole. The 5/8" is used for shaping tools. Maybe something else I forgot too.
#2 is a lathe center headstock center for small diameter turning.
#1 is a tailstock insert that looks like it has a lathe live center stuck in it.
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#1 The #2 Morse taper eccentric for the tail stock with a dead (cup) center installed for lathe turning.

#2 The drive center that mounts to the head stock for lathe turning.

#3 Moulder/dado arbor missing some of the washers.

#5 Ripstrait stock guide used with the table saw.

#6 Old style hold down. Used to hold stock down to the table for various operations.

#4,7,8 Parts for the hollow chisel mortising system.
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Re: I got a new to me mark

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This link should take you to a Rip-Strate manual download: download/file.php?id=52836
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Re: I got a new to me mark

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Ed, I think what’s sticking out the bottom on #8 is actually on that piece of wood under the mortising attachment. Thanks all!
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The black thing sticking out of the mortising attachment (8) is a mortising bit chisel.
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Re: I got a new to me mark

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For reference.

#1 the picture below shows the Tailstock Eccentric in place. As has already been said it is a "Dead" Cup Center inserted into it in your picture.

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#3 is the 5/8" Universal Arbor, later known as the Molder Dado Arbor, part number 505506 and a complete one is shown below.

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#4, 7 & 8 are parts of the Mortising attachment and a picture of some of the different era attachments are shown below. #4 and 7 are the Hold-down parts. The Hold-Down Post goes into the hole in the top of the Fence for your Mark 5 held in by the set screw. The current Hold-Down shown below has the addition of a "T" Slot nut at the bottom of the post for the newer Table Systems having "T" Track Fences. There is/was an upgrade "T" Track Fence available for the Mark 5/V 500 original Table System.

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#6 is a Hold-down set up but not from Shopsmith. I have a very similar one, if not the same, from Craftsman (Sears) I bought for my Craftsman Table Saw years ago.
Russ

Mark V completely upgraded to Mark 7
Mark V 520
All SPT's & 2 Power Stations
Model 10ER S/N R64000 first one I restored on bench w/ metal ends & retractable casters.
Has Speed Changer, 4E Jointer, Jig Saw with lamp, a complete set of original accessories & much more.
Model 10E's S/N's 1076 & 1077 oldest ones I have restored. Mark 2 S/N 85959 restored. Others to be restored.
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