Anti-kickback pawls falling
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adrianpglover
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Anti-kickback pawls falling
No pictures, but I was using my mark 7 in the TS mode a few days ago and the anti-kickback pawls ended up getting so loose that they were falling from the vibration of the saw, and not allowing my work to pass through the saw. I never liked the design of these as they seemed like they barely work, so I just took it to my bench grinder and ground the head of the rivet off. I have the pieces to it, but need to collect them (one or to pieced ended up on the floor under something). I figured I might put them back later, but wanted to find out what others have done when they've run into similar issues here.
Mark 7 (new 2020 - pre-COVID) | 12" planer (new 2020 - pre-COVID) | 11" bandsaw | 4" jointer
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Oneida Dust Deputy (on 5g bucket bolted to a 10g oil drum, used only with planer & jointer)
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adrianpglover
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Re: Anti-kickback pawls falling
I guess not.
Mark 7 (new 2020 - pre-COVID) | 12" planer (new 2020 - pre-COVID) | 11" bandsaw | 4" jointer
Grizzly G1023RLWX (new 2013) | Grizzly G0583Z (new 2012) | DeWALT DW618PK
Oneida Dust Deputy (on 5g bucket bolted to a 10g oil drum, used only with planer & jointer)
Grizzly G1023RLWX (new 2013) | Grizzly G0583Z (new 2012) | DeWALT DW618PK
Oneida Dust Deputy (on 5g bucket bolted to a 10g oil drum, used only with planer & jointer)
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Re: Anti-kickback pawls falling
adrianpglover,
The problem you have is not something I have experienced so I didn't answer previously. I have 3 sets of the Upper and Lower Saw Guard sets for the Mark V 510/505, 520 and Mark 7. Besides those I have several other Shopsmith Saw Blade Guard sets. The anti-kickback pawls on the Mark V 510/505, 520 and Mark 7 Upper Saw Blade Guard are different than other Saw Blade Guards and I can imagine how they could become loose and cause that problem.
The problem you have is not something I have experienced so I didn't answer previously. I have 3 sets of the Upper and Lower Saw Guard sets for the Mark V 510/505, 520 and Mark 7. Besides those I have several other Shopsmith Saw Blade Guard sets. The anti-kickback pawls on the Mark V 510/505, 520 and Mark 7 Upper Saw Blade Guard are different than other Saw Blade Guards and I can imagine how they could become loose and cause that problem.
Russ
Mark V completely upgraded to Mark 7
Mark V 520
All SPT's, 2 Power Stations & Crafter's Station
Model 10ER S/N R64000 first one I restored on bench w/ metal ends & retractable casters.
Has Speed Changer, 4E Jointer, Jig Saw with lamp, a complete set of original accessories & much more.
Model 10E's S/N's 1076 & 1077 oldest ones I have restored. Mark 2 S/N 85959 restored.
Mark V completely upgraded to Mark 7
Mark V 520
All SPT's, 2 Power Stations & Crafter's Station
Model 10ER S/N R64000 first one I restored on bench w/ metal ends & retractable casters.
Has Speed Changer, 4E Jointer, Jig Saw with lamp, a complete set of original accessories & much more.
Model 10E's S/N's 1076 & 1077 oldest ones I have restored. Mark 2 S/N 85959 restored.
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adrianpglover
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Re: Anti-kickback pawls falling
I think I'm just going to leave them off. I only use the TS mode on my shopsmith for plywood sheets. For everything else I'll use the cabinet base table saw. Even there, I keep the kickback pawls pulled up because they tend to scratch the wood. I use anti-kickback rollers and feather boards much more often.
Mark 7 (new 2020 - pre-COVID) | 12" planer (new 2020 - pre-COVID) | 11" bandsaw | 4" jointer
Grizzly G1023RLWX (new 2013) | Grizzly G0583Z (new 2012) | DeWALT DW618PK
Oneida Dust Deputy (on 5g bucket bolted to a 10g oil drum, used only with planer & jointer)
Grizzly G1023RLWX (new 2013) | Grizzly G0583Z (new 2012) | DeWALT DW618PK
Oneida Dust Deputy (on 5g bucket bolted to a 10g oil drum, used only with planer & jointer)
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GetterDone
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Re: Anti-kickback pawls falling
Most of the ones on my guards are in good shape.
It kind of looks as if they were used only on occasion.
It kind of looks as if they were used only on occasion.
Dwayne
1st Shopsmith Machine= SS Mark V /Jan./1984
2nd Shopsmith Machine= SS Mark V / Mar./1984
3rd Shopsmith Machine= SS Mark V / Jan./1981
4th Shopsmith Machine = SS Mark V (510) 50th anniversary
5th Shopsmith Machine = SS Mark V (510) Dec. 1996
6th Shopsmith Machine = SS Mark VII (1963 ???)
7th Shopsmith Machine = SS Mark V / Nov. 1984 (Double Quill Bearings)
8th Shopsmith Machine = SS Greenie / 1956
Shopsmith headstock only/ From Shopsmith/ June 1957
1st Shopsmith Machine= SS Mark V /Jan./1984
2nd Shopsmith Machine= SS Mark V / Mar./1984
3rd Shopsmith Machine= SS Mark V / Jan./1981
4th Shopsmith Machine = SS Mark V (510) 50th anniversary
5th Shopsmith Machine = SS Mark V (510) Dec. 1996
6th Shopsmith Machine = SS Mark VII (1963 ???)
7th Shopsmith Machine = SS Mark V / Nov. 1984 (Double Quill Bearings)
8th Shopsmith Machine = SS Greenie / 1956
Shopsmith headstock only/ From Shopsmith/ June 1957
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adrianpglover
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Re: Anti-kickback pawls falling
I've not used mine much either. I would usually try to pull them up and out of the way. I've never had a kickback where they needed to engage, but still. It just loosened up on me enough to finally start falling just from the vibration of startup, and then if I raised them it would fall even without the machine running.
Mark 7 (new 2020 - pre-COVID) | 12" planer (new 2020 - pre-COVID) | 11" bandsaw | 4" jointer
Grizzly G1023RLWX (new 2013) | Grizzly G0583Z (new 2012) | DeWALT DW618PK
Oneida Dust Deputy (on 5g bucket bolted to a 10g oil drum, used only with planer & jointer)
Grizzly G1023RLWX (new 2013) | Grizzly G0583Z (new 2012) | DeWALT DW618PK
Oneida Dust Deputy (on 5g bucket bolted to a 10g oil drum, used only with planer & jointer)
Re: Anti-kickback pawls falling
I don't really use mine much either. For ripping I use JessEm stock guides, which includes anti-reverse, along with a riving knife. For most other cuts I like a sacrificial fence for control, which isn't compatible with the USG so here I'm using a riving knife. I have the SS "non through cut" riving knife and a taller one with a little more coverage that I made from a USG, so if I'm using the TS with a 10" blade the riving knife is always there. But about that USG, I thought that the anti-reverse mechanism is supposed to be somewhat loose in the slot, and would naturally tend to fall in the angled slot when no workpiece is present.(?)
- David
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