paul heller wrote:Seems to be I remember this setup, including a video, from a year or so ago. I was impressed then. Still am.
What about the weight? It seems like a lot of weight to put on the carriage assembly.
Paul
I've thought about that weight myself but it seems to be a simple problem to solve (if it is a problem). The majority of the weight is in the two wooden inserts. Making these from a lighter weight material (1/2" vs 3/4") would be one approach.
If I can find the aluminum rails, I'll let y'all know.
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heathicus wrote:This is pretty impressive. I'm going to have to see if I can duplicate this on my 10ER.
You probably can not duplicate it because of the physical (mechanic) differences between the two but a few dimensional changes should allow you to do a reasonable facsimile.
I think it is fantastic and even though I have an outfeed table that I am pleased with I believe this would be a great addition to the shop.
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dusty wrote:You probably can not duplicate it because of the physical (mechanic) differences between the two but a few dimensional changes should allow you to do a reasonable facsimile.
Yeah, that's what I meant. I'm interested in duplicating the result - including the ease of use and setup. But how I go about it would have to be fairly different. This is an idea that I'm going to kick around in my head for a while and see what eventually falls out.
Dusty
I'm surprised I thought you would JUMP all over my idea of recycling old 510 left overs to make this. O know you are always looking for ways to utilize those parts and I think using the old table rails and using the foot SS connectors would make a really nice infeed/outfeed and I think the weight would be down.
Ed in Tampa wrote:Dusty
I'm surprised I thought you would JUMP all over my idea of recycling old 510 left overs to make this. O know you are always looking for ways to utilize those parts and I think using the old table rails and using the foot SS connectors would make a really nice infeed/outfeed and I think the weight would be down.
Well, maybe I don't understand your proposal. I do have some 510 leftovers. The rails, however, are heavy; much heavier per foot than are the 5' tubes. Furthermore, my 5' tubes get used quite regularly. If I was to incoporate them into a design I would have to buy them. Which I guess would be OKAY since I'll have to buy the rectangular rails if I use those.
Fill me in though, please. If you were designing a pair of tables (with Earl's concept in mind) how would you utilize the front and rear rails from a 510.
Would you use just the Main Table Rails or both the Main and the Extension Tables.
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Earl,
I love your tables, every time I look at them I have to admire your ingenuity.
I can't help but notice the white steel wire shelf. You have mounted below. I have purchased one of those shelves and intend to install it under a used 510 that I'm in the process of upgrading to a 520. Of course I will wait until the lift assist is installed. I would be really to know what method you use to attach your shelf. I have installed a similar shelf under a freestanding router table and found by drilling holes in the supports. I was able to install the shelf without any additional brackets. I am thinking I will shape the ends of the shelf to conform with the shape of the legs. Then leave the shelf longer than the distance required and drilling holes in the legs in order to hold the shelf in place. I am curious to hear what method of attachment you used, before I make a fool of myself. fjimp
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[quote="dusty"]Well, maybe I don't understand your proposal. I do have some 510 leftovers. The rails, however, are heavy]
I sort of understand now. Ed. I had to see something in order to envision the possibilities; no imagination.
I laid the 5' tubes up on top of some shorter tubes and then installed some of the recycled parts from the 510 upgrade. I attached two pieces of scrap to hold them in place. I can see possibilities. Just replaced the scraps with two properly sized tables and we have it.
Is this sort of what you had in mind for those previously harvested 510 parts?
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Ed in Tampa wrote:
I like the fact you added you often don't need the tables themselves that the rails suffice. In light of this I was thinking that instead of using 3/4 melamine for tables whether 1/4 ply might not work or even some aluminum cross members.
I know you had this engineered by friends but I tend to think it is probably stout enough to support an engine block. I would like to see if your brilliant idea could be engineered using more common stock and less huskier and therefore lighter material.
I considered 1/4-in and 1/2-in plywood for the tables. I choose the 3/4-in material so I could cut dados to match the miter slots. I also thought that 1/4-in ply might sag more than I wanted, being supported only on the edges. I cut the dados, by the way, deeper and wider than necessary, so I didn't have to worry about precise alignment. They are just to prevent interference with the miter gauge bar.
My prototype used 1x4s for the rails instead of the aluminum channel. I had to notch one of them over the headstock, but reinforced that area with some smaller aluminum channel. That rail still broke at that point.
As for the weight, my biggest concern is that all of this is supported by the two main table posts, which are supported by the aluminum casting of the carriage, and weight sitting out on the tables has a lot of leverage. I suspect that if I just leaned on the end of the table too hard I could either bend one of those table posts or crack the carriage casting. I have tried hard to not confirm that suspicion.
O know you are always looking for ways to utilize those parts and I think using the old table rails and using the foot SS connectors would make a really nice infeed/outfeed and I think the weight would be down.
I would like to see if your brilliant idea could be engineered using more common stock and less huskier and therefore lighter material. 