Each of the rail assemblies weighs 11.4 lb (5.2 kg). Each of the tables weighs 8.8 lb (4.0 kg). That's 40.4 lb (18.4 kg) all together. This by itself has not seemed to stress the SS, the table assembly, or the carriage at all, as long as this weight is pressing straight down. As I've noted, I am careful about too much unbalanced weight on the tables, and being the cautious sort, if I'm at all concerned about the size of the workpiece I'm putting on the tables, I add the telescoping legs for a little extra support.paul heller wrote:What about the weight? It seems like a lot of weight to put on the carriage assembly.
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earlmorton
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The legs on my SS came with two holes on each side at the level of the shelf. The shelf I got is about an inch narrower than the space between the legs at that point.fjimp wrote:I can't help but notice the white steel wire shelf. You have mounted below. I have purchased one of those shelves and intend to install it under a used 510 that I'm in the process of upgrading to a 520. Of course I will wait until the lift assist is installed. I would be really to know what method you use to attach your shelf.
You can see on the photo a short piece of 1/4-in dowel in line with each end of the shelf. Around the dowels are two blue zip ties that you can barely see in the photo. They go through the holes in the legs and around the shelf rods. A little kludgy, but it works! Because there's a gap between the shelf and the legs, I couldn't find a bracket that would fit.
By the way, I mounted the shelf upside-down, with the edge support on top and in the front. I also intentionally left the front zip ties a little loose so the shelf slopes slightly down toward the front. The theory is that the natural vibration of the machine will tend to shake everything on the shelf toward the front, and the edge support will keep them from falling off. I don't really know how much the vibration or the slope have helped, but so far, nothing has ever fallen off.
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By the way, I thank everyone for all the kind words about my tables. They were fun to design and build, and are every bit as functional as I'd hoped they'd be.
The only real problem I had was during assembly, when one of the rails fell off my work table and shattered my toe.
I was wearing sandals at the time--not too smart!
The only real problem I had was during assembly, when one of the rails fell off my work table and shattered my toe.
I was wearing sandals at the time--not too smart!
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[quote="dusty"]I sort of understand now. Ed. I had to see something in order to envision the possibilities]
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I have two thoughts one like you used and the other using the long table tubes mounted onto the sides of the 520 main table. Then the 5 foot connector tubes could slide right in. I was then thinking of the using the aux/floating rails to mount plywood infeed and outfeed tables so they could slide on the 5 foot connectors.
After listening to Earl talk about the weight of his table design I think that becomes the fly in ointment so to speak. I'm trying to figure out how to provide infeed and outfeed support with a lot less weight than Earl's present setup.
I think it is going to take out of the box thinking. When we talk about infeed and outfeed tables, I think the first thing we think of is what we seen others build (solid tables) yet many of us have managed for years using roller stands and etc. The one factor we didn't like was having to adjust the stand everytime we changed the SS cutting depth.
Perhaps if we start thinking support instead of tables we can cut the weight way down. Remember Earl said he often uses his setup without tables as his rails offer enough support. I would really like something if for nothing else to support my sliding table. It appears from what Earl said that miter bar plus one of his rails supports the sled for him.
I'm really tempted to try drilling holes for my old 510 main table rails into the side of of my 520 table to provide support for the 5 foot tubes. What I use then for the supports/tables will depend on level of my rail surface compared to the main table surface. I may only do it on right side of the table. Then mount only one tube and figure a way to mount a support to my SS crosscut sled to the tube. If it works I could pull the sled completely off the table (limited by the miter bar length) on infeed and hopefully it would provided some support for the sled on the outfeed side.
My problem is the transistion between just connector tube and fence rail. If the sliding table in riding on the connector tube when it come to the table rail it would have a bump. Not good! Need more thought!
Dusty
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I have two thoughts one like you used and the other using the long table tubes mounted onto the sides of the 520 main table. Then the 5 foot connector tubes could slide right in. I was then thinking of the using the aux/floating rails to mount plywood infeed and outfeed tables so they could slide on the 5 foot connectors.
After listening to Earl talk about the weight of his table design I think that becomes the fly in ointment so to speak. I'm trying to figure out how to provide infeed and outfeed support with a lot less weight than Earl's present setup.
I think it is going to take out of the box thinking. When we talk about infeed and outfeed tables, I think the first thing we think of is what we seen others build (solid tables) yet many of us have managed for years using roller stands and etc. The one factor we didn't like was having to adjust the stand everytime we changed the SS cutting depth.
Perhaps if we start thinking support instead of tables we can cut the weight way down. Remember Earl said he often uses his setup without tables as his rails offer enough support. I would really like something if for nothing else to support my sliding table. It appears from what Earl said that miter bar plus one of his rails supports the sled for him.
I'm really tempted to try drilling holes for my old 510 main table rails into the side of of my 520 table to provide support for the 5 foot tubes. What I use then for the supports/tables will depend on level of my rail surface compared to the main table surface. I may only do it on right side of the table. Then mount only one tube and figure a way to mount a support to my SS crosscut sled to the tube. If it works I could pull the sled completely off the table (limited by the miter bar length) on infeed and hopefully it would provided some support for the sled on the outfeed side.
My problem is the transistion between just connector tube and fence rail. If the sliding table in riding on the connector tube when it come to the table rail it would have a bump. Not good! Need more thought!
Ed in Tampa
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[quote="dusty"]I sort of understand now. Ed. I had to see something in order to envision the possibilities]
Dusty
Yes
I have two thoughts one like you used and the other using the long table tubes mounted onto the sides of the 520 main table. Then the 5 foot connector tubes could slide right in. I was then thinking of the using the aux/floating rails to mount plywood infeed and outfeed tables so they could slide on the 5 foot connectors.
After listening to Earl talk about the weight of his table design I think that becomes the fly in ointment so to speak. I'm trying to figure out how to provide infeed and outfeed support with a lot less weight than Earl's present setup.
I think it is going to take out of the box thinking. When we talk about infeed and outfeed tables, I think the first thing we think of is what we seen others build (solid tables) yet many of us have managed for years using roller stands and etc. The one factor we didn't like was having to adjust the stand everytime we changed the SS cutting depth.
Perhaps if we start thinking support instead of tables we can cut the weight way down. Remember Earl said he often uses his setup without tables as his rails offer enough support. I would really like something if for nothing else to support my sliding table. It appears from what Earl said that miter bar plus one of his rails supports the sled for him.
I'm really tempted to try drilling holes for my old 510 main table rails into the side of of my 520 table to provide support for the 5 foot tubes. What I use then for the supports/tables will depend on level of my rail surface compared to the main table surface. I may only do it on right side of the table. Then mount only one tube and figure a way to mount a support to my SS crosscut sled to the tube. If it works I could pull the sled completely off the table (limited by the miter bar length) on infeed and hopefully it would provided some support for the sled on the outfeed side.
My problem is the transistion between just connector tube and fence rail. If the sliding table in riding on the connector tube when it come to the table rail it would have a bump. Not good! Need more thought!
Dusty
Yes
I have two thoughts one like you used and the other using the long table tubes mounted onto the sides of the 520 main table. Then the 5 foot connector tubes could slide right in. I was then thinking of the using the aux/floating rails to mount plywood infeed and outfeed tables so they could slide on the 5 foot connectors.
After listening to Earl talk about the weight of his table design I think that becomes the fly in ointment so to speak. I'm trying to figure out how to provide infeed and outfeed support with a lot less weight than Earl's present setup.
I think it is going to take out of the box thinking. When we talk about infeed and outfeed tables, I think the first thing we think of is what we seen others build (solid tables) yet many of us have managed for years using roller stands and etc. The one factor we didn't like was having to adjust the stand everytime we changed the SS cutting depth.
Perhaps if we start thinking support instead of tables we can cut the weight way down. Remember Earl said he often uses his setup without tables as his rails offer enough support. I would really like something if for nothing else to support my sliding table. It appears from what Earl said that miter bar plus one of his rails supports the sled for him.
I'm really tempted to try drilling holes for my old 510 main table rails into the side of of my 520 table to provide support for the 5 foot tubes. What I use then for the supports/tables will depend on level of my rail surface compared to the main table surface. I may only do it on right side of the table. Then mount only one tube and figure a way to mount a support to my SS crosscut sled to the tube. If it works I could pull the sled completely off the table (limited by the miter bar length) on infeed and hopefully it would provided some support for the sled on the outfeed side.
My problem is the transistion between just connector tube and fence rail. If the sliding table in riding on the connector tube when it come to the table rail it would have a bump. Not good! Need more thought!
Ed in Tampa
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